[SPOILERS] AT mellows out with the big boys

[AutomatedTeller]

got drama - I think I'm going to 1-turn alphabet now, so I know whether or not to get Music. it's possible that Ludindicator (I kind of think of them as a team, still) didn't get music - MoM can give an artist - but I'd like to know, you know?

Founded The Jungle up north and started building a... galley????

ahh - but I have a plan. Which includes settling that 1 tile island with silver and doubling trade routes!!

Also, I'm debating the great lighthouse!! well, I probably won't build it, but I'm thinking abotu it...

[Azza]

Can't you hover the mouse over Music, to find out if the artist has been taken?

[AutomatedTeller]

hey - I didn't know that!!

It has been taken. Also, it wasn't by Luddite, who just founded Confucianism. Well, I'm still one-turning alphabet I think it was Sian (if it had been scooter, we would have been told that it was in Aruba, right, since we can see that city? I found out where Confucianism is founded)

[AutomatedTeller]

so, after some thought, I think that we should either build HE in My Nightmare or The party, Pal. I'm not sure which one, though - both are good.

I'm thinking The Party, Pal is the best option. The problem is, it's kind of behind the lines - I prefer, if possible, for my HE city to at least not at the end. And My Nightmare,with HE, can pop out 1 turn cataphracts. Which is pretty awesome...

[AutomatedTeller]

ok, well, this is insane.

Spain built the Glib, as well.

This is AW, and there's no banter thread. So... is there any way to get through to Sian and Scooter that I won't attack them, at all, if they don't attack me, while we take care of luddincator? (or should I just call him pindicator, now?)

[AutomatedTeller]

On reading it, that previous comment seems peevish - it wasn't meant to.

As it seems we are ending the game, I'll give some thoughts on what happened:

I made a variety of mistakes in this game. In order, I think they were:
0) Not taking maya, mali or another civ with a UU/UB that helps against WC. Zulu would have been ok. That said, that was ok, had I not screwed up:
1) City placement. City #2 should have gone to the copper, city #3 to the marble. That would have given me half that oasis area, which I think was the idea.
2) Tech path - my early tech path was bad - I half-chased a religion and then another and didn't get them. A better path would have been to go to BW and AH, then writing and HBR and taken scooter's city.
3) Pressing the attack on scooter, as opposed to going after luddite or just expanding more.
4) Making a GG Medic. Settling would have been better, I think. The unit was absolutely useless to me.

Had I just expanded more and maybe probed at luddite/pindicator, forcing him to build military, the game would have been better. I could have gotten to 8-10 cities or so pretty easily, building a stack of 10-15 cats, axes, and spears, then kick out 10-15 cataphracts, some of which with between 7 and 11 XP out of the gate Presumably, that would be enough to hurt Spain

I didn't do that, of course

Things I did well:

Fought off scooter.
Build a lot of libraries and a lot of cottages
Took scooters city.

[AutomatedTeller]

so, looking at luddite's thread, I clearly made another mistake, which was not recognize how insanely good those sites were. I mean, they were clearly awesome - but I didn't HOW awesome they were.

My early tech really hurt me. I feel bad - I think this was an interesting game, but I think my play screwed up anyone's chances to winning.

And, finally, I clearly don't have a good understanding of how large stacks have to be.

scooter had 15 war chariots.
luddite/pindicator had 9 cats and 13 HA.

I think my forces, at max size, were something like 4 cats and 6 HA, with a few specialty chariots.

With the HE, I figured I could build a pretty decent force by the time I got to cataphracts... if I survived till then.

[luddite]

Yeah those oasis spots were sweet, especially with financial and the pyramids almost doubling their research power.

And yeah, offensive wars in MP usually require either surprise(like you had at first) or an overwhelming number of units. Even having a tech advantage won't be enough to overcome large numbers.

I do think it was a strange decision for you to go after Scooter instead of me, but I don't think it really changed anything. Invading me/pin after I got construction would have been very, very difficult. Especially since accorded initial attack must have slowed down your growth a lot.