Mr. Cairo PB 48 [Spoilers]

[Mr. Cairo]

So we fianlly managed to get all three of me, Rask, and SD on discord and worked out our trade deal


Basically it's Rask trades MC and Monarchy to us, I get Feud and SD gets Machinery and we trade all those between the three of us

Here's an overview of my land as well:

[AutomatedTeller]

that doesn't look like your land

[Mr. Cairo]

that doesn't look like your land

fixed, thanks

[Mr. Cairo]

Time for some map griping:

Let's have a look at everyone's food resource situation compared to mine. Keep in mind that I've been at or close to #1 in land area for a while, so I've claimed as much or more land than everyone else. I'm also not looking at total food, since I'm on the lower end of the city count, so it makes sense I would have less food in the demos. I'm just going to look at food resources.


My food resources (any resource that provides at least four food) are as follows:
3 Dry Rice, 3 Wet Rice, 1 Wet Corn, and 4 Crabs.
That adds up to 53 Food. Actually less since I don't have lighthouses everywhere.


Now let's look at everyone else. Totals calculated from average of minimum (all dry grain, pigs & sheep all on hills), etc and maximum food (all wet, all on flat lands, etc). Also, all seafood are with lighthouses.

Superdeath:
2 Banana, 5 Clam, 3 Corn, 3 Fish, 2 Wheat, and 2 Sugar. ~72 total

Rask:
1 Banana, 5 Clam, 1 Corn, 1 Crab, 1 Deer, 1 Pig, 2 Rice, 1 Sheep. ~59 total

GKC:
1 Banana, 1 Clam, 1 Corn, 5 Crab, 3 Fish, 1 Pig, 4 Sheep. ~82 total

TBW:
1 Banana, 2 Clam, 4 Cow, 1 Deer, 3 Fish, 1 Pig. ~56 total

Gav:
3 Banana, 3 Clam, 1 Corn, 3 Fish, 1 Sheep, 4 Wheat. ~73 total

Note that I got this info from looking at the diplo screen and from looking at current trades. So it doesn't include any food resources improved but not connected (I have several dry Rice that are unconnected for example).

So even TBW, with a lot less land than me, has more food. GKC, SD, and Gav have massive advantages in food.



The main culprit is the lack of Fish, Pigs, and the predominance of Rice, half of which is dry. But even beyond that lack I only have 11 total food resource tiles in my land. SD has 17, Gav has 15, GKC has 16, Rask and TBW have 13. I'd like to once again repeat that I've never fallen behind on land.



There's not much to redeem this. It's not like I have more happiness resources or anything. In fact, the only thing I think I ever had more of is Forests to chop, just based on the reactions of SD and Rask to some of my screenshots. Which is nice, but not really great. And it doesn't make up for the lack of food.

I like the shape of this map, I think more games should be played on Pangaeas with islands around them, but the food is just unbalanced, and it shouldn't have been hard to see that before we started playing.



Edit:
here's all the diplo screens for "proof", there's only a few resources that are being traded away that can't be seen on these screens.

And the demos for land amount:

[Mr. Cairo]

The more I see of the map the more pissed off I become.

This is the island south of my capital:



Here's the island south of GKC's capital:




I just want to know who looked at this and thought "yeah, that's ok, that doesn't give one player an advantage over another."

[Mr. Cairo]

Mapmaker what the actual fuck is this:


and I'm including all of SD's islands in that WTF as well

Why was me, Rask, and TBW so screwed with the islands like this?

[Mr. Cairo]

Well, GG SD. I was looking forward to a big showdown of me and Rask vs you, but I guess you got the drop on us.

edit: this is an official concession

[superdeath]

Why was me, Rask, and TBW so screwed with the islands like this?

TBW had quite a few islands, they may have been mostly snowball/fishing village style islands but he did have a large number.. now that island chain SW of GKC......

[Raskolnikov]

WP MC. You were the best neighbour ever! Sucks I wasn't able to grab TBW on my first attack. We would have been able to kill SD otherwise