League of Legends General Discussion Thread

[VoiceOfUnreason]

Oh, hey! Guess who's the jungler on the enemy team! If you guessed "a Flash/Exhaust Tryndamere", you win a cookie!

The flash/exhaust Tryndamere who lead the game in minion kills? No, I wasn't guessing that.

[Jowy]

MF builds anyone? I usually go with:
Meki pendant -> Chalice (never run outta mana)
Boots (magic res ones)
Mining Pick -> Infinity Edge
Blood Dancer
Blood Dancer
Bloodthirster

Runes: arp, crit dmg, mp5, magic res


And btw, does leaving during choosing summoners get you a red quit?
Sometimes you can already tell you're gonna lose.. (ie. no tank, insta lock Yi's, all talk japanese and so on)

[uberfish]

Is there an updated list of people's IDs somewhere? I'm ub3rfish with a 3

[Deceptus]

And btw, does leaving during choosing summoners get you a red quit?

On ranked, yes. On normal, you just get a time penalty that prevents you from entering games for a moment.

[Cull]

MF builds anyone? I usually go with:
Meki pendant -> Chalice (never run outta mana)
Boots (magic res ones)
Mining Pick -> Infinity Edge
Blood Dancer
Blood Dancer
Bloodthirster

Runes: arp, crit dmg, mp5, magic res


And btw, does leaving during choosing summoners get you a red quit?
Sometimes you can already tell you're gonna lose.. (ie. no tank, insta lock Yi's, all talk japanese and so on)

Chalice is usually not a good item, and should not be taken. It provides mana regen, a stat that you shouldn't have to buff on dps champs by buying items, and magic resist that is minimal compared to other choices. Om VERY few champions(only that I can think of is Galieo, and even then...) it may be good. Its a waste for 900+g. Instead of an item that teaches you bad habits(SPAM MANA, who cares I got chalice, SPAM MANA), getting your core build, or dorans is a lot better. Another thing is the double blood dancers. These items are expensive, and provide going boots 3 hp pots not that much dps. One after IE is fine, but two means 6+k spent on items that provide a little attack speed, and crit chance basically. On most dps, I think that, then 0-3 dorans depending, then IE, Last Whisper, Bloodthrister, situtational is about right. I'm basing off what I build usually on ashe. MF might be different a little. For boots, merc trends are usually the way to go, but in some games where they have minimal CC, zerk boots aren't a bad choice all things considered. Runes are up to you, but on mf, apen reds-mana regen(scaling) yellow-mana regen(scaling)blue-apen quints, especially if you having trouble with mana to get a chalice.

[spellman]

Chalice is usually not a good item, and should not be taken.

Also, it only beats Tear mana regen when you're below 50% mana. So, if you're really having mana issues, Tear is better since it has more consistent regen AND increases your mana pool.

Still, Ashe/MF/etc don't really need regen if you manage things properly, and nab some mana regen runes.

Also, I personally prefer BFS->IE if you can afford it. I just don't find pickaxe to be cost efficient enough (esp with 3 slots taken by wards, pots, and boots), and I might be a noob but I don't go to base often enough that I'm not close to a BFS.

[v8mark]

My Ashe build (and I play her enough that I consider this pretty much optimal, for me at least, at the moment) is ideally:

• Starting items - Doran's Blade if I'm likely to be vs a caster; Doran's Shield if an AD carry
  
  
• First trip back - Level 1 boots + whichever of Pickaxe/BF Sword I can afford
  
  
• Then rush IEdge ASAP. If you have it by 20-22 minutes, you're doing well. Pick up Berzerker Greaves along the way
  
  
• Then Phantom Dancer (Zeal first, ofc)
  
  
• Then it becomes situational -- usually I'll go Last Whisper after this, assuming they're stacking armour. If not, then something like a Bloodthirster if I'm doing well or perhaps a defensive item (usually a Banshee's Veil) if I'm having trouble staying alive

Cull is right about the Chalice - generally it's a crutch. You shouldn't be running out of mana. I have some scaling mana regen runes as part of my Ashe build - that should be all you need.

He's also right in that Phantom Dancer is not a great item on MF, and two is definitely overkill; I don't even build two on Ashe. Consider that 1) MF already has a passive movespeed boost, and 2) MF already has an active attack speed boost as well, and you can see how unnecessary it is/they are. You're really better off buying more damage or a Veil IMO.

[Gustaran]

Has anone tried the new Vlad spellvamp build with 3 x Hextech Gunblade ?
Some threads mention it is supposed to be the new FOTM at high elo and that you could heal back lots with e/r...

[Gustaran]

LoL Contest #3 - Baron must die !

Welcome to LoL challenge #3 ! This time it’s about killing Baron ! I added some bots so farming should be bearable

Starts: As soon as the servers are up again! (let's hope Riot doesn't need a day again to unlock solo custom games :-/)

Ends: Tuesday, May 17th, 12:00 (noon) CEST (which is usually around the time for patch maintenance)

Conditions: Start a solo custom game on Summoner's Rift. Add 2 bots of your choice to your team. Add Sivir, Soraka, Malphite, Master Yi and Shen to the enemy team (so you play a 3 vs 5 game). You may kill any bots in order to get more gold quickly.

Goals: Solo kill Baron.

Winning condition: The fastest time wins. Penalty: Add 1 minute to your time for every tower you lose.

Banned:
a) Champions: Fiddlesticks & Shaco are banned.
b) Items: Sword of the Occult, Mejai's Soulstealer and Leviathan are banned.

How to participate:
As soon as you kill Baron, take a screenshot that shows your your finishing time. Report your times either in this thread or via PM to me. Upload your screenshots somewhere on the net (i.e. http://www.imageshack.us ) and send me the link via PM. You may improve your time as often as you like and switch champions as you see fit.

Bonus:
You may deduct 2 seconds from your finishing time for every day before Tuesday you report your result (i.e. if you report Saturday, you may deduct 6 seconds). This is so we get some results flowing in and not have everybody turn in 30 minutes before the contest ends.

What can you win:
As usual, you can win a 10$ Riot Point Code. This time, the code will not go to the winner, but will be drawn again from all participants who submitted a valid result. Hopefully this will encourage even more players
If you are the winner, please make a replay available after the contest ends. This way everybody can learn from you

Good luck to everyone !

[uberfish]

This contest needs Shaco banned.