WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

[BRickAstley]

Might as well stop playing the game and let Lewwyn do the talking.

3 drones with 1 nap makes most sense by metagame speculation. I'm quite confident that Molach is villager, while Sareln has not given that much reasons to believe it.

Aw come on meiz. :/ I agree with your vote, but don't keep yourself from thinking
Crosspost: actually looks like you didn't just give up, sweet

Sorry to steal the fun.


I think we still need to hear from Jkaen who has been radio silent since the lynch.

yes please. Oh where, oh where has our jkaen gone?

From iPod, so brief.
Brick's timeline about when I did my analysis is wrong - didn't happen until after We lynched Mattimeo. Also Mattimeo lynch is a one, two w/ Zak and I left breadcrumbs that I feared recruitment. I'll dig those up tomorrow (20 hours) since coming weekenD is very. Busy. IMO we should lynch Brick to keep 2 night immune villagers into the endgame

Um, I didn't make a timeline at any point. What I said was that you got active when you were mentioned as suspect, which was true, and that you made a big logic post, which is also true. If I had any wording of timeline back there I apologize but I'm fairly certain that I did not, I was just listing my reasonings.

I don't understand what you mean by recruitment.

[BRickAstley]

I guess I can trust Lewwyn now.

Tried to bane Serdoa last night but was obviously roleblocked. I think my time in this world is rather sharply numbered. In numbers labelled "One more night phase, chump."

After all the drama between you and Lewwyn that's pretty funny. :D at least that's cleared up now though.

And bummer about the bane. I think this was asked before but who have you baned other than Serdoa so far? In case there's any more helpful info there.

[Lewwyn]

I guess I can trust Lewwyn now.

Tried to bane Serdoa last night but was obviously roleblocked. I think my time in this world is rather sharply numbered. In numbers labelled "One more night phase, chump."

If we get the roleblocker, a whole new lease on life!

[Meiz]

I guess I can trust Lewwyn now.

Tried to bane Serdoa last night but was obviously roleblocked. I think my time in this world is rather sharply numbered. In numbers labelled "One more night phase, chump."

Can you share your previous night actions as well?

Also, I can understand your game play better, for trying to keep yourself alive. But you're outed now, so I'd like to hear a lot of your thoughts on... basically everything :D

[Meiz]

All the euro's except me are dead? There's Molach, but he seems to post in the mornings and at night

Injera defending Sareln, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=811

[Molach]

I too worry about BRick/Yang and which alignment he is. With at least 2 village drones, suppressing riots is mostly bad thing. I mean, those who are suppressing Pussy Riot right now are evil, right?

But there is the freely claiming. (Assuming Sareln is village) - A NAP would be hesitant to freely claim a skill to suppress drone riots when they had no idea what a drone riot are, and in fact probably knew that 'drone' was a role, and that all drones were villagers. Possibly he imagined that riots were something that drone riots would be introduced later in the game and that it was not an ability but rather something bad that happened to them. Possibly a third faction too. Anyway that was a STUPID claim as a NAP. However within realms of possibility, and a NAP anti-riot squad makes a lot of sense gameplay-wise.

Even if Sareln is NAP and the power could be useful, then it still is about the hardest power ever to put to use. You need to make sure the other two drones are dead or in no danger, and then you need to somehow signal that Sareln is a good choice for nightscan or -kill. That night. Not likely to happen with a one-use power.

Did Jkaen or maniac claim their role yet? Not saying they should, because we should establish some sort of order in which to do it if not. So just asking if they have. Their powers might be helpful versus wolves, but I think also it's just a matter of lynching the right people. We atm have 3 mislynches to spare (assume just one faction, one nightkill and no prevented kills), the fourth is game over. Still, each mislynch will remove a suspect wolf along with a villager so can't see how we can miss the final 2 if it should come to 3-2 endgame after taking out 3 suspects.

[Molach]

Kids dictate when I can post. So usually one post 05:30 after being awoken and then night after they have been successfully neutralized in bed.

[Molach]

About mindworms, they need not be a separate faction. Consider that Bigger has named himself "mind worm". So it could be that Bigger is the one doing the mind worm business, he is playing the 'planet' with dice rolls or alternatively targetting evils and good. So mabye night 2 roll was 'give a villager a secret message revealing one NAP - next night the villager dies' (Roll roll okay maniac and qgqqqq were NAP and villager selected).

Night 3 gave a 'harmless random atmosphere-related message'

Hm think I need some coffee now, sleep depravation is not doing my brain matter much good.

[Meiz]

Took a look at Molach's posts. Sorry, they are not in any order whatsoever

Injera attacks Moach, his defense, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=397
Later reminds him that Injera is still voting him, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=496
Doesn't seem that staged to me.

Votes Injera (away from Sareln), http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....count=1148
Changing votes to:

Injera (4) - Serdoa, bobchillingworth, lewwyn, molach
Lewwyn (3) - jkaen, maniac, selrahc
Selrahc (2) - meiz, waterbat
maniac (2) - , zakalwe, thestick
zakalwe - injera
molach - , sareln
sareln - brickastley

Could have easily stayed on Sareln. Vote is later explained at, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....count=1254
Also interesting line at the end: "I personally think Zakalwe is most likely NAP of them, just by how he voted and wrote in defense of Injera. But misguided villager would do that too."


Slight dirt on novice, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=407

But directs attention on Pindicator, after Serdoa's big post against novice, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=514
Still, I can understand the reasoning behind his vote. I also thought Pindicator suspicious for "subtly" directing attention on Catwalk's death. I think his private thread confirms his thought process quite genuinely, on his vote against Pind.


He thought it likely that Marr = NAP, and was heavily in favor of name seer scanning one of the nameless ones, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=654 (Zak was nameless)


Waterbat slips that Molach is a drone, Molach's reactions:

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=839
http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=845
http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=847

He said that he has the explanation for it. What was it, Molach?
He also mentioned that Nap probably has an explanation too. What did you mean by it?

Funnily Zak offers the explanation, but Molach doesn't understand, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=849


Like said, Molach is leaning villager more than Sareln. BRicks claim of his ability is not something that I'd see Napper doing. So Sareln it is IMO.

And before I forget, Lewwyn

[Selrahc]

All the euro's except me are dead?

I'm Europe based.

Also, I can understand your game play better, for trying to keep yourself alive. But you're outed now, so I'd like to hear a lot of your thoughts on... basically everything

There isn't really a lot to understand. I really did get pretty obsessed with the idea of Lewwyn as a threat. That wasn't a ruse. Most of the people I thought were villagers are now looking very shady to we in the wake of my almost lynch. My top suspects in order are JKaen and Sareln.

Since night 2 my protection has been solely based on Serdoa. As a baner, I would have really hated to have lost the town their seer. Even one perpetually trapped in a roleblock.. I was hoping we could clear the roleblock and still keep our seer. I had Bob pegged as a nameseer, which was why Waterbat's slip seemed like a big deal to me, but the nameseer didn't feel like as important a target to protect.