WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Meiz]

I didnt declare him as anything, I justsaid the wolves had seen him claim. Of couse they know if he is village or not.

This is what you wrote: "See told you all he would claim with just the tiny bit of pressure. Thats now 1 less person the wolves have to check out for any power roles we have"
Based on that, you didn't seem to concider that Tas would be a wolf lying about his role. Perhaps because you knew he wasn't.

As for know better I meant leaping all over a post that had been stated by the poster to be very weak, but somehow holding it up as if I had decided there and then I knew 100% tansuke's role and alignment without question despite me saying up front it was a weak argument

I haven't questioned your original vote of Merovech, which you stated as weak reasoning. So what are you talking about here?

I'm tempted to call that wolfish, recognizing the usual patterns of village behavior and blending in. Then again, admitting that you recognize the pattern and still following it doesn't seem like something a wolf would do.

I think instantly voting back your voter is an easy vote to make. Doesn't need much justification behind it.

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I don't get the whole "it's unfair to vote someone" reasoning, especially on day 1. It's not allowed to vote for player because he has just made 1 post? ok.... . I get it that Injera feels sorry for thestick because of the last game, but IMO it's still an odd reason to campaign against voting him just because of that. In other words, this:

It's of course very possible that Thestick is a villager, and if so it sucks getting jumped on for your first post. In fact it sucks regardless of alignment. But it's part of the game.

I also found it odd that Catwalk had to underline his busyness with a big marker, mostly because I've never felt any need for it as a villager. And I don't really remember him doing that before, correct if I'm wrong. That being said, he wasn't in big danger of getting voted out, so if the plan was to fake being busy, why wouldn't he just stick to that plan?

Uberfish doen't seem to be bringing his A-villager-game so far. He has mostly concentrated on catwalk. [strike]Seems like his field of view is a bit too narrow.[/strike]
//crossposted with uberfish, voting novice. So scratch the last line. Still, what's with the attitude?

I'd also prefer pindicator or Serdoa (yes, eating my words from last game) as mayor over Zak if anyone is interested in an alternative.

Why pindicator?

I do not believe Catwalk has the comportment to play actively as scum. That's not an insult or slight, just my perception of his personality.

It's guesswork. I think he would do his best to replicate his standard play as a wolf, like every player drawing wolf. So I think he would make the effort, another thing is how succesfull he would be.

Something that struck me earlier was Injera's tone and aggressiveness. I really think that Injera is a villager.

Are this related or separated? Are you saying his tone and aggressiveness is a sign that he's a villager?

I'm starting to agree with Jkaen here.

(regarding Merovech voting Tasunke).
How would Merovech know Tasunke's claim habits? It's his first game. And I think that's just bullshit argument to make. You're not allowed to vote Tas because he might claim his role?!

Mattimeo, for his two posts being a quick check in followed by a metagaming post saying that 'Tasunke's role claim doesn't clear him.'

Agreed. I remember him making a big number of his day 1 voting habits in previous games, but sitting on fence doesn't leave any trails behind.

@ mass claims. I asked this earlier already, but how would you recognize false claims from correct ones? You'd need some sort of role seer / tracker to catch people lying and we don't know if we have any. So in worst case scenario, we would have villagers claiming their true roles while wolves claiming vanilla villagers.

@Azza, you've posted twice saying that waterbats post #29 confused you, hence the vote. Anything else you'd like to contribute? Same question for Aromir.

@Sareln, seems like you hang in every game for lurking. Wouldn't it be time to change that a bit? What's the idea behind voting Qgqqq? It's not to add pressure, since you're not making any arguments.