Lewwyn Wrote:Zak this ones for you.
Ichabod...
No I do not agree with this. Zak's main case against you was NOT simply the vote or the coincidental timing. It has to do entirely with the tone of the post and the presentation of the post. As Zak says:
I have bolded the parts I think are relevant here. You've stated that Zak's case was based on the timing of the post hedging suspicion on thestick but then voting for Gaspar. I've highlighted parts of Zak's accusation that show a read based on how he thinks wolf Ichabod will play. He mentions the nonsensical argument against Gaspar, subservience in the ensuing dialogue and the sneaked in backhanded compliments or jabs. I'm not saying that Zak didn't look at the timing as suspicious, but that the argument he makes leads away from the voting itself and delves into tone and personality. That is an argument I can get behind that isn't entirely based on a situational thing.
So I think you've done a good job at shaving away the more damning pieces of Zak's argument while addressing the things you can explain.
Also, since it concerns me:
Are you trying to say that I'm guilty by saying your guilty of the "same thing" you are accused of? Or are you trying to say you're innocent and I'm innocent? I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve. To me it sounds like you are connecting the two of us to both A) defend yourself and then B) set me up to go down too... after you turn up wolf, of course.
The problem is we didn't do the same things. I gave reasons for my vote on thestick and then actually voted for him. It is not my fault that 30-40 minutes later Catwalk posts this:
And I go WTF and vote for him. I still can't read that without getting scummy vibes. You say and I'll repeat:
I did vote thestick, but noone else voted thestick during the time that I was on him before I switched to Catwalk. There was no change in heat! Then you say maybe this maybe that. But isn't it clear what I did? I found someone I suspected more? And It's definately not the same thing Zak has accused you of. He accused you of having a wolfish tone and mannerisms within your posts. And this post you've done both diminishing Zak's argument and then trying to tie me to you is even scummier in my opinion than the post that Zak initially called you on.
Just FYI I haven't had a chance to get much further in the thread past this because I was writing this up so I will need to read other responses to Ichabod and any more of his posts yet. But at this point I'm happy to endorse lynching Ichabod.
Ichabod
novice
I have to run.