Sorry everyone I haven't been around much or even voted yet today. The end of day 2 was a bit frustrating for me as I was never able to catch up to the thread by the time of the lynch. I've been having a reread with the scraper and it's taken a lot longer than I expected. I have about half a dozen people left to go so I should hopefully be able to finish up before bed.
I would like to say, though, that I think a Selrahc lynch is a bad idea. He's made a few comments but they haven't moved the discussion at all, and he's not making any meaningful votes. If he's a wolf, he's not really influencing the game. This is going to be a long game most likely, so it's not something we need to address right away.
Now, Ichabod.
My "preemptive" post explains my reasoning for why I did what I did. Ultimately you can believe it or not, but it's the absolute truth.
Yes, I laid off on Day 1 once it became clear that Gaspar and I were arguing about different things. Day 2, the village had just dragged a wolf to the gallows with me along kicking and screaming, I was trying to look at things from a fresh perspective.
Okay, let me explain this. At the point I voted for you were next in line after Sareln on my suspicions list. It was late at night for me and Sareln was engaged and acting like a good villager. He didn't seem scummy any more, so rather than leave my vote on him I moved down to you. It was too late for me to type out my reasons. At the time my main reasons for you were your a) I felt your defense was scummy, in particular the "Lewwyn did it too" defense, but also what I perceived you turning inwards for your defense, and b) your spat with uberfish which seemed like you were stuck in Day 1 thinking. Maybe that's not a fair complaint- well, actually, in retrospect it was at least partially unfair because I had completely missed a couple of your posts, including the Mattimeo one- but that was my mindset at the time.
So, I wake up and do some things and get to the thread the next day and realize I needed to write down my case against you. Unfortunately there had been an incredible amount of posts made during that time that I was simultaneously trying to read, and my posts were admittedly a bit half-assed.
I don't want to go too far into the woodwork here, but this just isn't what I tried to say at all. I never called anything you did "totally scum" or anything similar. I didn't vote for you- and never said I did- because I thought you should have picked up on better reads. What I meant was that I perceived that your thought process was dominated by things that didn't take into account what had happened the day before.
I agree with others that this game has been quite a bit more mean-spirited then previous games, and I'm trying to not get hot-headed here, but this is just insulting and incoherent.
I would like to say, though, that I think a Selrahc lynch is a bad idea. He's made a few comments but they haven't moved the discussion at all, and he's not making any meaningful votes. If he's a wolf, he's not really influencing the game. This is going to be a long game most likely, so it's not something we need to address right away.
Now, Ichabod.
Ichabod Wrote:a) Lots of defense on thestick, almost to the point of possibly being called too obvious.
My "preemptive" post explains my reasoning for why I did what I did. Ultimately you can believe it or not, but it's the absolute truth.
Ichabod Wrote:b) His battle with Gaspar. [...] But all the attention he gave to gaspar disappeared as soon as day 2 started and Gaspar moved to other targets. He said that reevaluation was needed, so maybe that was it.
Yes, I laid off on Day 1 once it became clear that Gaspar and I were arguing about different things. Day 2, the village had just dragged a wolf to the gallows with me along kicking and screaming, I was trying to look at things from a fresh perspective.
Ichabod Wrote:Why this is suspicious? Because Injera was the only player to find that post I made about Gaspar a good one. This post I made was the one that made mostly everyone vote against me. But it was not the case of Injera, he voted for me on a pretty flimsy reasoning
Okay, let me explain this. At the point I voted for you were next in line after Sareln on my suspicions list. It was late at night for me and Sareln was engaged and acting like a good villager. He didn't seem scummy any more, so rather than leave my vote on him I moved down to you. It was too late for me to type out my reasons. At the time my main reasons for you were your a) I felt your defense was scummy, in particular the "Lewwyn did it too" defense, but also what I perceived you turning inwards for your defense, and b) your spat with uberfish which seemed like you were stuck in Day 1 thinking. Maybe that's not a fair complaint- well, actually, in retrospect it was at least partially unfair because I had completely missed a couple of your posts, including the Mattimeo one- but that was my mindset at the time.
So, I wake up and do some things and get to the thread the next day and realize I needed to write down my case against you. Unfortunately there had been an incredible amount of posts made during that time that I was simultaneously trying to read, and my posts were admittedly a bit half-assed.
Ichabod Wrote:He never really explained what the "big ideas" were. Can you see why this is wrong? His vote on me is due to the fact that I didn't catch all the good lynches that could have been made. The lynches that he, apparently, caught.
This seems like a made up justification, due to the fact that just following the vote on me would be bad, since he actually liked my "totally scum post".
I don't want to go too far into the woodwork here, but this just isn't what I tried to say at all. I never called anything you did "totally scum" or anything similar. I didn't vote for you- and never said I did- because I thought you should have picked up on better reads. What I meant was that I perceived that your thought process was dominated by things that didn't take into account what had happened the day before.
Ichabod Wrote:Anyway, my conclusion is that there's nothing in Injera play pointing to villager. I haven't seen one useful contribution, with my analysis in hindsight.
Ichabod Wrote:Could be a cautious wolf play and I'd expect that from Injera. Right now, Injera seems to be a good target for me
I agree with others that this game has been quite a bit more mean-spirited then previous games, and I'm trying to not get hot-headed here, but this is just insulting and incoherent.