Read Ichabod's posts this morning and some of what he said made good sense.
This makes sense actually now that I look at it from this perspective. I'm NOT willing to take Selrahc off my suspect list, but I'm willing to bump him down.
Molach is interesting. I went back and looked at a few of his posts and thought he was actually pretty normal Molach the first half of the game so far, but that he really has dropped off. He's also a symbol of what's currently ailing this game. Too many lurkers. Do I suspect him... not enough to currently vote for him. Too many other worse, IMO, lurkers.
I both agree and disagree with this. I agree its weird not to use the more harmful restriction on Novice. But I disagree that Meiz was "starting to get heat". I thought of him as pretty clean before the PR. Novice also thought Meiz was pretty innocent. Only Gaspar stated anything suspicious of Meiz. So, no, I think you are very wrong about that. Again reading that makes me feel like you are twisting facts to make it seem like there's more suspicion than there is... phantom bandwagon much?
The way that people have been viewing the PRs with distrust makes me think its much less likely a wolf would draw more attention to themselves with a PR. You do say "it can wait" and I wholeheartedly agree with that. Let's not go meta.
The part of the Injera post that intrigued me most:
That was really important to me. This is very similar to last Injerawolf who fooled me Day 1 and then came out Day 2 without anything of value. I made an initial read on Injera on Day 1 and I've pretty much stuck with it. Day 2 the only thing I remember of him is voting for Ichabod, which at the time was good in my mind
, but now I don't really remember as much substance behind the vote. But hell I can't complain when people follow me after I make a good case can I? Afterall in the end thats what catherding is all about. I'm less convinced of Injera's innocence then I was before and if that forces Injera to prove his innocence more than that can only be a good thing.
My overall feelings after reading your posts, Ichabod, is that you're less suspicious. I still have doubts. Though, maybe I was wrong and got provoked to the way you tied yourself to me? I'm still thinking about it and need to go back and read it the initial few posts again while keeping current Ichabod in mind.
As for how it informs today, I was originally planning on switching off of Selrahc at this point and going after Ichabod for the rest of the day, but as I said his latest posts have given me pause. I actually really agree about Arromir who reminds me of Slowcheetah on his first day out (he was a wolf). However... the one I really want to go after is Catwalk.
This Catwalk case has been building since day 1, and I simply cannot see anyone else I think we should lynch more. Some may say that he's acting like catwalk and that he's acting normal and that indicates he's a villager, but here's the thing. He makes all these scummy posts and then says, yeah that may be scummy. And we all walk it off. It is simply incredible how we're all just letting him bob at the surface with a vote here and there, but then we go vote elsewhere in the end. Its like everyone suspects him, but because of that he's TOO obvious. Well I'm here to say, sometimes obvscum is simply obvscum, hiding in plain sight.
I have a few hours this afternoon so I'm going to trawl through his posts and give you my final thoughts. I might take a nap first though...
Ichabod Wrote:That post you quoted, Rowain, is one that you can make with little read time = little time of internet access. Why? Becuase it relies only on the most easy to catch info of the thread (even skimming very fast you would see that Novice had a PR) and in your own thoughts about the topic. I'd say that post clearly shows Selrahc doesn't have time, not the opposite.
This makes sense actually now that I look at it from this perspective. I'm NOT willing to take Selrahc off my suspect list, but I'm willing to bump him down.
Ichabod Wrote:By the way, Molach is also in heavy lurker mode (not the usual light lurker mode from villager Molach), but I seem to reccall him saying he would have something to do. And Mattimeo is also pretty suspicious. His vote on me today was very bad. If it wasn't for his claim, he'd be very high in my suspect list.
Molach is interesting. I went back and looked at a few of his posts and thought he was actually pretty normal Molach the first half of the game so far, but that he really has dropped off. He's also a symbol of what's currently ailing this game. Too many lurkers. Do I suspect him... not enough to currently vote for him. Too many other worse, IMO, lurkers.
Ichabod Wrote:I can buy the PR on novice, but I can't buy the one on Meiz. Meiz was starting to get heat and then this happens? Why not restrict a more cleared villager, why not wait? There's something fishy about this, in my opinion, but since I can't yet put my finger on it, I think it can wait. besides, why not use this absurdly harmful post restriction on Novice? The "quotes restriction" is harmful, but not that harmful...
I both agree and disagree with this. I agree its weird not to use the more harmful restriction on Novice. But I disagree that Meiz was "starting to get heat". I thought of him as pretty clean before the PR. Novice also thought Meiz was pretty innocent. Only Gaspar stated anything suspicious of Meiz. So, no, I think you are very wrong about that. Again reading that makes me feel like you are twisting facts to make it seem like there's more suspicion than there is... phantom bandwagon much?
The way that people have been viewing the PRs with distrust makes me think its much less likely a wolf would draw more attention to themselves with a PR. You do say "it can wait" and I wholeheartedly agree with that. Let's not go meta.
The part of the Injera post that intrigued me most:
Quote:Day 2, when he was not being attacked like in day 1 (attacks made by Gaspar), was way more contentless. It has a lot of small posts and questions. He voted for Sareln and after some people defended Sareln (like Gaspar), he changed his vote to me, with flimsy justification. Interesting to notice that he never said anything about me before that vote (other than something about Qgqqqq saying that there was enough attackers on me being strange).
That was really important to me. This is very similar to last Injerawolf who fooled me Day 1 and then came out Day 2 without anything of value. I made an initial read on Injera on Day 1 and I've pretty much stuck with it. Day 2 the only thing I remember of him is voting for Ichabod, which at the time was good in my mind
, but now I don't really remember as much substance behind the vote. But hell I can't complain when people follow me after I make a good case can I? Afterall in the end thats what catherding is all about. I'm less convinced of Injera's innocence then I was before and if that forces Injera to prove his innocence more than that can only be a good thing. My overall feelings after reading your posts, Ichabod, is that you're less suspicious. I still have doubts. Though, maybe I was wrong and got provoked to the way you tied yourself to me? I'm still thinking about it and need to go back and read it the initial few posts again while keeping current Ichabod in mind.
As for how it informs today, I was originally planning on switching off of Selrahc at this point and going after Ichabod for the rest of the day, but as I said his latest posts have given me pause. I actually really agree about Arromir who reminds me of Slowcheetah on his first day out (he was a wolf). However... the one I really want to go after is Catwalk.
This Catwalk case has been building since day 1, and I simply cannot see anyone else I think we should lynch more. Some may say that he's acting like catwalk and that he's acting normal and that indicates he's a villager, but here's the thing. He makes all these scummy posts and then says, yeah that may be scummy. And we all walk it off. It is simply incredible how we're all just letting him bob at the surface with a vote here and there, but then we go vote elsewhere in the end. Its like everyone suspects him, but because of that he's TOO obvious. Well I'm here to say, sometimes obvscum is simply obvscum, hiding in plain sight.
I have a few hours this afternoon so I'm going to trawl through his posts and give you my final thoughts. I might take a nap first though...
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”