Gaspar Wrote:This bugged me at the time, because Ichabod and I basically said the same thing in the thread. There's a whole sequence of posts overnight though where novice appears an aggressive scumhunter, but really more what he's doing is trying to frame the narrative of the game to reflect him in the best possible light - or otherwise known as what Commodore does in every Civ game when its obvious he's fucked up. :oldwink: Obviously he was doing this to set the next days lynch priorities, as evidenced by his immediate push on me, but I actually don't think it makes a lot of sense when scum-hunting to frame the narrative so tightly - ideally, you want to leave things pretty vague so that the scum will screw up. Again, I've highlighted the part about me but this was pretty much the sum of all novice's conversation that night:
"Here, let me tell you what you should think about today's events."
Yeah I guess you nailed it, I was framing the narrative, and I already had you in mind for the next lynch. I didn't say so outright because I wanted to see if anybody else were thinking along the same lines. It seems noone agrees with me, though. The lack of impetus on you is so large that I think it would be a bit farfetched to blaim scum for it, too. So I guess I'll pursue other targets today.
As for putting myself in the best possible light, I guess I may have done that too, it's hard to resist the temptation when I'm in my not-so-humble opinion the village's MVP and people still talk about lynching me in every other post.
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On to TT, I think Gaspar summarized his claim well:
Gaspar Wrote:No, I don't particularly think giving up a lynch for TTs judgement call is a wise decision. Sorry, buddy.
Especially of course given that he wants to lynch me. I think debating this is a waste of bandwidth, but let me just point out two things in TTs last accusation that are factually untrue, since regularly repeated falsehoods tend to be taken for facts. You can look up the evidence yourselves if you feel like it. Untrue statements are bolded. I left out the paranoid wrappings.
Twinkletoes89 Wrote:Yet noone has been post-restricted since and no post-restricting person has been found. I don't think a post-restrictor role even fits in a traditional 'mafia' set of roles, of which every other role that has been revealed is at least a twist on a conventional role.
When the post-restrictor goes AWOL, novice suddenly leads a late charge to deliver us a mafia member, despite the fact he came up with no arguments of his own.
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OK, as for who to lynch, I really got the feeling earlier today that Injera was being pushed as a mislynch. To quote Injera and Selrahc:
Injera to Tasunke Wrote:I see what action(s) were done. Presumably that includes night kills as well.
You know, you made an argument that my role was more powerful than Qg's, which means the fact that I wasn't eaten is suspect, and when I push back you back off, and then come back with an argument that my role wouldn't be useful to the village and vote for me again? At this point I'm pretty sure you're just looking for a reason to vote for me.
/grudgingly withholds retaliation vote
Selrahc Wrote:Tasunke
I think Injera has been filed under "Mislynchable", and making a bit of an effort at it is what Tasunke is doing.
Tasunke's game path to date... he got very committed to the action of lynching Sareln, and then got rather down on himself about it. But that's a path of actions that really makes a lot of sense as a wolf. Turn an early wolf lynch into a mislynch on a "suspiciously voting" player. Then act depressed to lower the amount of expectations on you, and explain fluctuations in behaviour.
Tasunke has posted a lot. I've found him semi-helpful, but also kind of self obsessed. I've not really got the kind of village vibes he normally gives out... or the kind of crazed mania he can often evince.
I'm going to look over his posts in a bit more detail, and that might get me to shift off him again, but I think my suspicion is slightly piqued.
Tasunke
I have to run.