@tt, well I am...
Jkaen didn't seem to understand how Matt's power worked (was responding to Ichabods false assumption that it roleblocks). I think this alone gives quite big village lean for him. Then the temp forum meta, I don't believe he didn't even register to the site and let the game stay on old, just to give himself extra credit as a wolf. And wolves would know about the temp forum through quick topic. And everyone just ignores that?
"If I had been awake I would have argued against lynching Selrahc because no matter what you say about wolves trying to meta the meta I simply don't believe that Selrahc or Jkaen are wolves. Look we've been given a gift in the meta and you guys just squandered it away. Unless Jkaen was laid up it simply doesn't make sense for him to be a wolf. I don't think he ever even registered for the temp forum! If he were a wolf he simply would have seen about the game earlier. He would have been in contact with Brick through the quick topic and he would have been much more invested no? I think the Selrahc lynch was a total mistake and a gift for the wolves."
What if he's telling the truth and it's generally what the wolves thought in quicktopic. I recall Waterbat saying on the temp forums that players arriving first to the forums are wolves. Later he suggests draw. I don't even remember him using this meta argument against anyone later, why not? So maybe the wolves realized the meta-aspect a bit later and thought it would make it impossible for them to win. Selrahc being lynched was enormously lucky break.
I now see people pushing for Jkaen while waterbat keeps slipping as a backburner. I did not like the "we got this in the bag" speech by Pind, followed by "if one of these is wrong (meaning Jkaen in practice), we lynch Catwalk/Meiz for the win". I don't believe for a second that Lewwyn's, Matt's and Molach's attacks on Catwalk were all just distancing... I think it's more likely that Lewwyn stopped attacking him, because Catwalk seemed to believe him as villager. So why would he continue the attacks?
The evidence points at Pind being villager, but my gut screams something might not be right here... I'm not really comfortable with him becoming the mayor.
And waterbat: "my gut is telling me lynch jkaen - meiz for the win"
Waterbat
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Jkaen didn't seem to understand how Matt's power worked (was responding to Ichabods false assumption that it roleblocks). I think this alone gives quite big village lean for him. Then the temp forum meta, I don't believe he didn't even register to the site and let the game stay on old, just to give himself extra credit as a wolf. And wolves would know about the temp forum through quick topic. And everyone just ignores that?
(October 17th, 2012, 16:14)novice Wrote: By the by, I read a comment by Brick in some other thread where he said he was used to being complained at as a GM, or something to that effect. I don't recall any villagers complaining in this game, so maybe the wolves have reason to complain. Like, there only being five of them, for example.Maybe the "complaining to gm" part could be related to the forum meta-aspects. This post from Lewwyn: http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid300802
"If I had been awake I would have argued against lynching Selrahc because no matter what you say about wolves trying to meta the meta I simply don't believe that Selrahc or Jkaen are wolves. Look we've been given a gift in the meta and you guys just squandered it away. Unless Jkaen was laid up it simply doesn't make sense for him to be a wolf. I don't think he ever even registered for the temp forum! If he were a wolf he simply would have seen about the game earlier. He would have been in contact with Brick through the quick topic and he would have been much more invested no? I think the Selrahc lynch was a total mistake and a gift for the wolves."
What if he's telling the truth and it's generally what the wolves thought in quicktopic. I recall Waterbat saying on the temp forums that players arriving first to the forums are wolves. Later he suggests draw. I don't even remember him using this meta argument against anyone later, why not? So maybe the wolves realized the meta-aspect a bit later and thought it would make it impossible for them to win. Selrahc being lynched was enormously lucky break.
I now see people pushing for Jkaen while waterbat keeps slipping as a backburner. I did not like the "we got this in the bag" speech by Pind, followed by "if one of these is wrong (meaning Jkaen in practice), we lynch Catwalk/Meiz for the win". I don't believe for a second that Lewwyn's, Matt's and Molach's attacks on Catwalk were all just distancing... I think it's more likely that Lewwyn stopped attacking him, because Catwalk seemed to believe him as villager. So why would he continue the attacks?
The evidence points at Pind being villager, but my gut screams something might not be right here... I'm not really comfortable with him becoming the mayor.
And waterbat: "my gut is telling me lynch jkaen - meiz for the win"
Waterbat
TT