WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Gaspar]

Going to address this first. Warning ahead of time I'm super-tired so probably only semi-coherent, but I don't have a ton of time tomorrow and I want to make sure I get my thoughts out.

No, the buddying up comment wasn't aimed at you. Here are the reasons I suspect you, note that I'm not locked in by any means nor have I done sufficient rereading yet.

Voting record
Day 1:
184
Gaspar half-heartedly defends thestick, suggesting he's mislynchable by making a Sareln reference.

Sits on an Injera vote, later rushes in past the deadline to add a vote on thestick.

I honestly feel pretty good about my day one. I had a read and pursued it. I also generally prefer to be a dissenting voice against novice/zakalwe until I am convinced of their innocence because I'm one of the few who can stop a runaway zak/novice train. I never said I thought thestick innocent because I agreed with why they thought he was scummy, but I'm always wary of day one runaways.

Day 2:
Wolves are divided on Sareln (8 votes) and Ichabod (5 votes) with 7 on pindicator. Gaspar votes Ichabod. Fits with a pindicator/Gaspar wolf pair, no wolves on pindicator unless Meiz is wolf (I was on pindicator as well).

Didn't like the vibe from Ichabod. He had an incredibly strong role and it probably made him play a bit scummy early. Not the only who felt that way.

Day 3:
Gaspar starts out suspecting Rowain straight away, then sits back and lets others question him (me and novice it seems, pindicator was also on him). Later jumps in to say he has nothing to add but wants to give pindicator buddy points for his vote tracker. When he eventually returns to Rowain, he plays good cop with him:

That's why it looks like a scummy vote park rather than a village conviction. And if you were so convinced, why have you not made said case today instead of just getting annoyed? I can't speak for the others but what I'd like is some insight from you, in theory you are picking this up given your aggressive evidence gathering.

I was trying to get a feel - very much on the fence about him. There's functionally no difference between Rowain village and Rowain scum.

Later, he reinforces the belief that Lewwyn won't be any use until day 4 (possibly helping to give Lewwyn an alibi for mislynches):

Lewwyn, are you going to start being useful at some point or do we have to wait for day 4 for that this time because its a bigger game?

I was trying to get him to contribute, certainly not give him an alibi.

This sounds a little too accurate to me, considering we didn't know Mattimeo's alignment yet:

If mafia loses members on days 1 and 2 that will feel like they're losing. So if one of the 3 main candidates yesterday flips scum, I think we can probably do some retrospective analysis which will give us some very good info. Until such time as one of them are killed or lynched, however, this is probably best filed for the future.

I don't really suspect this info is there on day one, despite knowing the alignments of both candidates. As has been stated, the better place to look on day one voting info is earlier in the day. At the end of the day, wolves would have been in self-preservation mode having outted a baner and watched a wolf go spectacularly up-in-flames, I think that was every man for himself.

I don't follow. At this point we were still mostly presuming Matt's innocence.

Riling up Rowain further:

Why don't you try scumhunting instead of temper tantruming if you're innocent?

I often taunt to try and get someone to make a mistake. I got zak this way a few games back.

Cherry picking things that stand out to me, not trying to summarize the full days. Have to finish this later, but here are a few more gut feels:

Lewwyn voted Gaspar on the day he hung. Unless there's only one wolf left, there was a wolf on Lewwyn (myself and waterbat are the only Meiz voters still alive). If Lewwyn was bussed, trying to give Gaspar cover makes sense.

Rowain was an excellent target to rile up, and I think Gaspar knew this. Not saying that Gaspar did most of the riling up, but Rowain acted exactly like scum would hope him to. Rowain antagonized half the village which probably contributed to his later lynch. Gaspar would know this better than anyone, being prone to outbursts himself in the past and having deliberately antagonized a villager as a wolf before (Serdoa, don't remember the game).

Gaspar has received little suspicion all game in spite of a poor voting record, he's not once been a serious lynch candidate that I've been able to find.

Again, I'm not locked in and not done examining your posts. Also not done examining others either.

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Disagree I've received little suspicion, I've never been so close to being mislynched. I think I've gotten votes almost every day and I was a crusade target at varying points for Injera, Ichabod and novice. They all eventually backed off but particularly the day novice was heavy on me I thought I was toast. And my voting record isn't really all that bad comparatively - I was on the last two scum. If I were scum I could have saved Lewwyn and I cast the vote that pushed Molach into the lead in addition to being on him heavy early in the day.

Bottom line, this hasn't been my best game and I've made some mistakes, the Rowain and Jkaen lynches in particular but it doesn't change the fact that I've been doing my damnedest to get us to the finish line.