WW23: The Heart of Gold

[Mattimeo]

If he flips village, then that suggests we look in Bigger's and Mattimeo's direction with slight questions to zakalwe and Gaspar, while if he flips wolf then we need to strongly look at Bigger and Mattimeo (poor you two ) and something approaching potential clearance that Gaspar, zakalwe, Lewwyn and myself are villagers.

So basically, you just want to kill him, and then have me and Bigger lined up as the next targets ready to fall regardless of what he flips? Yeah, that's definitely symptomatic of "getting more information" from his lynch.

Can we examine/ you explain the reasoning here please.
I follow the thinking, but I'm not reaching the same conclusion.
In my opinion, zalakwe, Gaspar and I all voted for uberfish, while Lewwyn expressed a post-day/early night intention that he would have voted uberfish given the opportunity.
Given that situation, a night kill on any of these would have reflected badly on uberfish and possibly incited a revenge lynch from the village (that might sound simplistic, but as Lewwyn said we are often sheeplike).
This is a positive thing to do for the wolves if uberfish is village, a bad thing to do if uberfish is a wolf. (I'm basing this on a possible village reprisal lynch having greater momentum than +/- 1 vote.)
In my opinion it makes more sense that if uberfish was a wolf, to kill one of the Group A voters instead, confident that he could argue his innocence the next day, in some part based upon it (indeed as he has already done and consequently zakalwe has changed his vote). And killing the least scummy/most veteran player(?) among the Group A voters, ie Serdoa, is therefore a sound interpretation of the events?

As zak has said, preventing an assumed vote against you is usually a better idea than killing a random, given the reactions to it is as much "framejob" as it is "defence", and you can argue WIFOM all day about it.
But then, I'm a new player who had the temerity to believe that lynching someone who wasn't contributing to the game, who would have effectively reduced LyLo to a coin flip, if not worse, was a good idea, so I suppose you should take everything I say with a grain of salt...

I keep coming back to the end of Say 1, where Gaspar was basically "I don't care who dies, someone tell me who to vote." zak and PB pointed him at uberfish, where he then stuck, throughout the night and into today. And then we get posts like #113, which look like they're helpful, but really contribute nothing. At least pb was making arguments, even if they're based on terrible assumptions...