Brief chat with UCiv. I didn't get very long before he had to bolt, but I floated the Communism idea:
Chat with UCiv Wrote:scooter
Hey Yuufo, do you have a few minutes by any chance?
Yuufo
Hi!
scooter
hey! glad I caught you
So I talked with my team, and we definitely would like to work with you however we can
we were trying to think of ideas.
Yuufo
good
scooter
someone suggested an interesting one.
We would like to get to communism tech. we have good science, but also extremely high expenses which is slowing us down
an idea: if you guys fund us with gold on our way to communism so we can get there quickly, we'll beat everyone there, getting a great spy. We could then gift you the great spy. you could use that to infiltrate us and steal a bunch of techs from us and catch up that way since tech stealing is cheaper then researching most of the time
I know it's a little odd, but if we arranged, it, we could make it so it's cheaper than researching the techs for you
Yuufo
i thought that would be forbidden by the rules?
(spionage economy)
scooter
I don't know of a rule that would prevent that?
oh no, spies are allowed. apolyton just used a great spy to steal 3 techs from us at once
a few turns ago
Yuufo
well in all pitboss games I am playing it is forbidden
cooperative spionage
scooter
yeah, that's pretty common, but the other teams voted to allow it here for some reason
so anyway, there's an idea to think about. we have not set our tech path just yet so we aren't 100% sure if it will work best for you and us yet, but it's something to consider
Yuufo
i don't think it would work, since we are far away from each other. the spies would take ages to get to your cities, or get caught, and the costs depend on distance
scooter
On costs: I can have some people on our team do the math and they can figure out the exact costs so we can make sure it works.
on distance: we can get the great spy itself to you very quickly for the gift since it has 2 moves and we have engineering. the other spies you could build in advance.
Yuufo
do you tech Communism just for the spy?
scooter
we would like state property and the workshop bonus
Yuufo
ah ok
scooter
but denying the spy to an enemy is a good benefit too
or using it ourself if we teched it without help. tech stealing is so cheap if there is no counter-espionage
Yuufo
yes I know
well I'll submit the idea to my team
I must go now
bye!
scooter
Okay no problem. Yeah jsut let me know if you have any questions or concerns and we can talk more
bye!