So I saw OT4E of CivPlayers online, so I decided to try my luck on the civic/religion swap stuff. Emphasis mine.
Ok so I need to talk WPC into it for them to agree. He does need to discuss with his team, but overall this sounds extremely promising!
Chat with CivPlayers Wrote:scooter
Hey OT4E, got a quick question for you if you have a minute?
OT4E
hi
i will try to give you quick answer if i can
scooter
hey. I was talking with MZ from Apolyton, and we are making an agreement to never use civic/religion swap spy missions against each other for the rest of the game. We both think they are kind of unfair missions
and we'd like to try to include more teams in the deal
do you think that's something you would be interested in agreeing to? 10:19 AM
OT4E
i remember that somebody tried to apply this to the rules
not sure who exactly
but probably it failed
scooter
we pushed for it pre-game, but it got voted down, but MZ suggested we make an agreement out of it
that we'll never use it even if we are at war or peace
OT4E
I need to discuss it with my team
you know now we have more espionage points on you, so this will be like a favor from our side for right now
but in general I agree that this is a not completely fair.
scooter
Yeah I understand. Apolyton is in the same boat in that they have more EPs on us, but it was their idea to at least rule that one out
OT4E
may be because they have same civics as you
scooter
but I do generally believe those missions aren't very fair. I"m sure you guys will do some tech stealing with those EPs anyway
hah, yeah for now!
OT4E
did you discuss this with WPC?
scooter
I haven't yet, but we might do that next
they don't even have alphabet so they can't do a whole lot with spies just yet hah
OT4E
why not?
you can gift them spies
share some money and here it is
scooter
that's true, yeah
OT4E
for us it will be mandatory to have them in this agreement
scooter
Ok. I believe I can convince them to agree
OT4E
and what do you think about "peaceful civic swaps" when both team agrees to?
scooter
You know, I'll run that by my team
I tend to think it would be fine if both teams agree to it. It's a little exploit-y in my opinion, but it's not THAT bad and you still have to pay for it
what's your opinion on that - think it's okay?
OT4E
yes I dont mind
scooter
yeah. I think I agree. the point of this was more to avoid things turning into an EP arms race, so I don't think that's a big problem
Anyway, if you don't mind, check with your teammates, and I'll run it by WPC
OT4E
ok
scooter
thanks!
OT4E
np
Ok so I need to talk WPC into it for them to agree. He does need to discuss with his team, but overall this sounds extremely promising!