[SPOILERS] Yossarian blames Caledorn

[YossarianLives]

I'm still not sure what to think about Harem and Barteq--Locke and Cervantes had a hidden meaning, so maybe that's something to check. That would be interesting with full diplo too--was PB4 AI Diplo?

Is there a particular reason why you left Exp/Phi off the list, considering you two like Exp and put Liz on there? I know Phi is a step below the top 3 (and I probably overrate it), but it seems better than Exp/Ind :/

I did a quick Google search yesterday on "Harem and Barteq" but didn't see anything that stuck out to me. I think PB4must have been full diplo, right, since LP was able to secure super-long NAP's with all his neighbors?

Good point about Exp/Phi, I probably should have included Peter on my list. Thinking more about it, that probably has a little more synergy than Lizzy with Fin/Phi.

Caledorn's going to be so confused, unless he knows RB history

We chatted about it last night, so he's up to date:

YossarianLives:
I really like Cheater Hater’s insight about our newcomers 8:05 PM
Caledorn:
His post is excellent 8:06 PM
I really enjoyed it too. And great to have yet another experienced dedlurker, even though he has flagged that he will be mostly inactive 8:06 PM
YossarianLives:
Yeah, he's been really excellent on Team Gillette about posting short comments that have a lot of insight 8:07 PM
Caledorn:
Who is Haram and Barteq? Are they this team eagle or what it's name was? 8:07 PM
Yeah, I've noticed him on there. I haven't posted much there since they use those silly screenshot tags instead of img tags, which means tapatalk doesn't show the images 8:08 PM
YossarianLives:
Oh it doesn't? That's horrible! 8:08 PM
They are our game's Locke and Cervantes 8:09 PM
Caledorn:
Indeed, since I more or less only use my phone to read the forums as tapatalk is so great. I might ask the tapatalk team to add support for it.. 8:09 PM
I'm guessing Locke and Cervantes was totally unknown in PB4? 8:10 PM
YossarianLives:
Yeah, brand new players who had never posted before on RB 8:10 PM
Until at the very end of the game, Sulla revealed that it was actually him and Speaker playing using pseudonyms 8:11 PM
Caledorn:
I was *just* about to ask about that... 8:12 PM
"Has it ever happened that someone has played a game under false nicks" I was going to ask.. Good grief. If we get anyone like that in here, that's intimidating 8:13 PM
YossarianLives:
But they signed up very similarly, coming up with a two-person team out of nowhere, even though they had never posted before 8:14 PM
Yeah, makes things very interesting 8:14 PM
I am sure that this is what the lurker thread is all abuzz over 8:14 PM
And I bet for sure Parkin will have his suspicions, since he played in PB4 8:14 PM
But the other teams of newcomers will have no idea lol 8:14 PM
Poor maga 8:14 PM
Caledorn:
You're quite certain we're dealing with pseudonyms too, right? 8:22 PM
YossarianLives:
I hadn't even considered it until a second ago when I read CH's post, but now I'm almost positive 8:23 PM
I just posted in the sign-up thread trying to fish for more information 8:23 PM
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Caledorn:
They're definitely not my friends, and CH's post leaves a huge question mark in the air, almost as if he knows something. But he hasn't read the lurker thread, so he's probably just speculating too - unless he knows who they are by other means of course 8:25 PM
YossarianLives:
I think he's just speculating. Now that he mentions it, it seems so obvious. And he has a knack for picking up on things 8:26 PM
Caledorn:
Yeah, I agree. Wonder who they are. Probably someone who has a thorn in Parkin's behind 8:26 PM
YossarianLives:
Now the trick is to find out, who hasn't posted in anyone's threads yet? 8:27 PM
It can't be Krill, thank god 8:27 PM
Or Seven 8:27 PM
Commodore is out, and Plako obviously 8:27 PM
Caledorn:
Krill would be a nasty opponent. It might be Sullla though? 8:28 PM
YossarianLives:
Could be Sulla. I've noticed he's fond of posting in the lurker thread for these greens-type games, and he's been absent so far from commenting on this one 8:28 PM
And of course, he is the original Locke 8:28 PM
Pindicator and NobleHelium have both posted in the lurker thread, too 8:29 PM
Any thoughts about my list of leaders? Did I leave anyone out? 8:30 PM
Caledorn:
Not that I could see. It's definitely the best leaders as far as I know 8:30 PM
I am clueless about the playstyle of playing Joao though 8:39 PM
So if we end up picking him, you need to teach me the style 8:40 PM
YossarianLives:
Well, I think at that point, it's just crank out Workers and Settlers like crazy, and hope to find a bunch of Gold or something to not crash the economy 8:42 PM
He's probably a lot weaker the higher the difficulty 8:43 PM
Caledorn:
Lol 8:43 PM
Best playstyle ever that! 8:43 PM
I know fin is a boring trait, but I have to admit I do prefer that as the main trait. Exp is definitely a very good trait though, so it's probably my second or thirs favourite. When I play SP I usually play a Spi leader though, so Mansa is one of my favourites 8:45 PM
We should probably pick something else than Mansa in this game for that reason itself 8:45 PM
YossarianLives:
I discounted Spi a lot in my choices, but it really is a good trait 8:49 PM
I don't focus on religions enough, so that takes away a lot of Spi's power 8:49 PM
Caledorn:
Spi is good for the non-GA civic changes too 9:03 PM
But if we can ensure we are in GAs whenever we need critical civic changes, Spi is not such an important trait 9:05 PM
YossarianLives:
Yeah, I feel like it mostly makes the game a little more convenient, but some well-timed ga's makes it less worthwhile 9:06 PM
Caledorn:
Exactly 9:06 PM
Are the old PB and PBEM maps available anywhere for download after the games are complete? 9:07 PM
I'd like to try a proper SP game with a good map. I could use the ISDG map of course, but I'm not too fond of such a big map 9:08 PM
YossarianLives:
I'm not sure. They have a thread where they kept track of all the maps, but the links have been broken ever since the site migrated 9:09 PM
Caledorn:
I'll look at that and pester someone if the links doesn't work. Thanks :-) 9:10 PM
YossarianLives:
Plako might be a good person to pester about that 9:10 PM
Caledorn:
Yeah, if he keeps his old maps around 9:31 PM