[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[DMOC]

Hm ... your last one is pretty interesting. It does get the settler out quick, but I wouldn't settle on top of the plains hill in this case. The main reason is that we're already going to be a bit short on production, and there's no guarantee we'll get extra hills when we move there. We do get 3 useless tiles, though the fish will still be 5 food 2 commerce even if the capital isn't coastal. Though there's also the risk of getting bad tiles if we move 2 west ... but even the tundra forest isn't bad since we can get 20 hammers from a chop.

By the way, our official leader pick is Suryavarman II (Exp/Cre) of Byzantium (Hippodrome/Cataphract). Our starting technologies are Mysticism and The Wheel, so we'll have to likely start out with some form of Hunting -> AH to improve our food. If we settle in place, we'll get some much-needed commerce which could help us land an early religion.

I'm agree with you that settling on PH could be not optimal in the long run. Just wanna explore this option too.
Although, in my opinion, hammer boost from T1 is pretty valuable. On screenshot above its 35 free hammers on T36.
Settling GH and work PH mine gives you 0f/5h. Vice versa: 1f/5h.
Of course, settling on coast is another story, but we'll be teching so slow (especially compare to almost everyone FIN here), I just doubt we'll be safe after tech Fishing and build WB. All my sims was like we decide ignore Fishing and move inland, so it was PH vs GH settling. If u don't mind, I'd like to optimize PH start and you or anyone else could sim coast or GH start so we can compare and decide later. With all that fog it could be useless, but we can't help it right now. For all we know could be double wet corn and gems in BFC if we settle on GH.
One more thing, there is a small chance Copper/Iron is on that GH, so settling it wouldn't be so hot.

Just ignore China flag on my screenshots. I did start with Myst + Wheel in my sims, just too lazy to make a new WB file.
Tech was Hunt>AH>Mining>BW. As you can see BW due T42.
Worker goes Deer>Road>Road>Pigs>Road>Mine>Mine. Could save 1 worker turn if skip Road on Deer, but I've started 1st Mine right in turn Mining was researched, same with Pasture, so I don't think its matter.

As for early religion, are you sure we need one?
We are CRE so borders will pop well without it.
We are not FIN so we'll be teching slow and with so many basic techs we need ASAP its hard to find a room for another one.
We are not SPI so we'll lose one turn to revolt.
We already paint a big target sign on our civ (rush them before knights era kinda sign), are you sure we wanna make this sign even bigger with early religion?

On second thought, I actually don't think an early religion is that important to us -- thanks for offering your arguments. Yeah, it definitely seems like we can just focus straight on the worker techs and then after that beeline to either Mathematics or Monarchy.

I'll take another look at settling options. It would definitely be helpful if you tried to optimize the plains hill start. I may have some free time tonight so I can run some sims.

Two and a half more topics to discuss here, if anyone bored with micro.

(1) - We need a team name. Here one of the rules for this game: Every team needs a fancy/awesome/impossible-pronounce-or-remember name.

(1.5) - We need a naming scheme for our cities/units/workers. Something that works with team name, probably.

(2.5) - More serious one. As I see it right now, diplomacy will be pretty important for us to survive till knights. Some picks were a bit scary. We are starting behind with no good techs and no FIN. Can we talk our way out of troubles? How much you respect NAPs? How much you think our neighbors will respect NAPs? Any other thoughts?

I suggested a naming scheme for cities and workers here.

NAPs are pretty well respected around here. I remember back in RB pitboss 4 that Lord Parkin secured really long NAPs, and his rivals didn't break them despite how weak he was in power. Then he had 3 straight mausoleum-buffed Golden Ages and was able to win the game.

I know that I will definitely be respecting all NAPs I/we sign in this game, even if it means I pass up capturing a free worker here and there. We can always try to "cancel" and have a cool-down period as a last resort, but if we have to do that, then our original NAP was too long.

Just a reminder:

8. Team Eagles & Condors - Kurumi / HBHR (with Oxyphenbutazone dedlurking)
Pacal II (Fin/Exp) || ??

10. Team Dinosaurs - Whiteye / Raptorous
Darius I (Fin/Org) || ??

3. Team Master and Margarita - Slaze / Maga_R (with Jovan Kukic dedlurking)
Willem (Fin/Cre) || ??

6. Bowsling / Aivoturso
Mansa Musa (Fin/Spi) || ??

1. Team Orgynized - Lord Parkin / Arkipeller / Magno_uy (with WilliamLP and Dp101 dedlurking)
Huayna Capac (Fin/Ind) || ??

2. Team Blame Caledorn - YossarianLives / Caledorn (with Scooter, Old Harry and Cheater Hater dedlurking)
Isabella (Spi/Exp) || Inca (Quecha (Warrior) and Terrace (Granary); Myst/Agri)

4. Team Care Bears - Yuufo / Bisons
Victoria (Fin/Imp) || India (Fast Worker (Worker) and Mausoleum (Jail); Myst/Mining)

7. Dick76 / DMOC -
Suryavarman II (Exp/Cre) || Byzantium (Cataphract (Knight) and Hippodrome (Theatre); Myst/Wheel)

5. Team My Little Marathon Cannibal Pony - Classical_Hero / Halvgud
Napoleon (Org/Cha) || Sumeria (Vulture (Axe) and Ziggurat (Courthouse); Wheel/Agri)

9. Barteq / Geo (with Harami dedlurking)
Ragnar (Fin/Agg) || Rome (Praetorian (Sword) and Forum (Market); Fish/Mining)

Thanks! I'll keep this information in mind and put a spreadsheet up once we're all done picking. Once all teams are finalized, I'll also post my early "power rankings" based on the leader combinations, while ignoring who is actually playing.

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Now that I think about it, I should probably edit the first post and have a "table of contents" style posting. Once we have enough stuff in this thread, I'll do that.