Hail-Mary sent to Apolyton and CivPlayers:
RB Wrote:Apolyton and CivPlayers,
Hey guys, I wanted to run another idea past you both. I'm sending this to both of you because I'm sure any potential deal must include both of you. It's about what would be reasonable peace terms for you guys.
First off, nicely done so far. You guys have done an admirable job of working together, and overall I'm impressed by your smart play and teamwork. The tactical puzzle each turn has been genuinely interesting, and it continues to be that way. That said, I want to figure out what's best for both of us. I think we can say two things confidently here that you guys would agree with:
1) Each of you guys are probably able to take another city before our counter-attack begins in earnest.
2) You both see that we are about to get Rifling AND we still are comfortably #1 in soldiers, so we have plenty of gas in the tank, so there's a very finite limit to how far you guys can go.
Anyway, as I said previously, I see CFC as the big leader right now. Your main obstacle in the coming turns is that we have almost everything on your front or headed towards your front right now, and more is coming in every turn. When CFC joins on T175, we'll have no real ability to defend against that since we're in the process of throwing everything to your front. Us losing core cities doesn't matter too much to you, but CFC gaining all our best cities does since I figure the whole point of you declaring on us was to prevent a complete runaway. Our cities on the CFC front are our strongest cities, and if they pick up 7-8 of them (minimum) easily while you guys only gain 1-2 cities each, they will easily run away with this game - I can promise that. And no, we aren't going to abandon our front with you just because CFC moves in on us. If we're going to get dogpiled, we are going to find a way to win on one of the two fronts just for pride's sake
. If we're going to die, we'll try to recapture what you've taken in the same way the German team did to WPC previously. So I see 2 ways the next 10-15 turns could unfold:
1) Our war continues. You guys pick up a couple cities, things grind to a halt when we've taken our shots at your stacks AND added Rifles to the mix. CFC joins, gains a bunch of big cities that we're unable to defend because we're tied down in the west. CFC becomes the new RB runaway, takes peace with us after they get what they want, and you guys are stuck with a long war with us. CFC runs away with an easy victory.
2) We agree to not contest your capture of a fair amount of cities in exchange for peace (explicit gifting is banned, but we can empty out cities for you to capture), and in return we'll prevent CFC from effectively winning the game by defending the big prizes in the east. You guys can freely integrate your new conquests with no problems from us while we are stuck slogging through another war with CFC. The end result I believe will be a world where Apolyton, CivPlayers, RB, and CFC are all pretty evenly matched through the end of the game. I think that's what you guys want, and that'll give you a better chance of victory in my opinion. In addition to not attempting to recapture Brick we would let you guys capture (or raze/replace) Ditchdigger, Mano Y Mano, PETA Crusaders, and Beyaz Penir without any further counter-attacks from us. Then we would both make lengthy peace, and we would go fend off our eastern enemy who will still have a sizable technology advantage against us.
How do you feel about this? I would be happy to chat further when you get some time.
Thanks,
scooter - Team RB