(September 13th, 2013, 05:54)Old Harry Wrote: I did wonder about starting a grass cottage and roading the copper before using both workers to finish the mine, then the chop can come in with the maths bonus, but several turns later, meaning the cows are ready several turns later. So we probably lose those ten extra hammers.
Alternatively road the copper and chop the forest, then using both workers to finish the mine means you don't waste a worker turn on cottaging the plains tile SW of Dunkirk.
Alternatively we do what you said originally...
I haven't worked out if either of those get our fifth city set up quicker, or how the forest growth changes that, but I might have time to test tomorrow.
Yeah, as you kind of said, setting up the 5th city in an "optimal" way requires earliest possible support from both of those workers. Therefore the only actions that they do in my sim after farming the rice are mining that copper (not roading) and chopping that forest (+1 pre-cottage turn while moving north). Btw, in my sims I have 1-pop whipped the settler in Agincourt (we have granary, yay!) and then those workers manage to build the road just in time (wasting 2 worker turns as they move together on forests though). Cannae also manages to build a worker before border pop so delaying the culture pop does also delay cow pasture with an equal amount of turns.
Okay, that said I'm no way claiming that my current approach is optimal, but maybe that info helps you with simming. Perhaps delaying our 5th city by a turn or building trade routes into it with small delay can be accepted if that delay brings real benefits (i.e. not wasting those worker turns allows us to get something valuable done faster in future). E.g. I do also like roading the copper, as it costs in essence only 1 worker turn as you said, but I wonder if it's still too much. Ability to build cheap military police warriors is not necessarily useless either.
Btw, that forest growth was only good and did not delay anything. Extra 30 hammers
I'm looking forward to you showing me how we solve this jungly puzzle!
