Cal and I chatted about the turn a bit today.
tl;dr
We're concerned about GG, so we're pushing Hunting=>Archery a little further up the research chain, but otherwise pretty much sticking to the plan and crossing our fingers that they're not sending an army out against us.
Quote:YossarianLives
I'm just glad the gladiators haven't shown up yet with a chariot to tear through our cities
Caledorn
Do you really think they're that reckless?
YossarianLives
Did you see my suggestion that we send them another email telling them we know exactly what they have and they won't be able to catch us unawares?
They might be. They built the chariot, and we have nothing that defends against it
Caledorn
Yeah, do you think we should do that?
YossarianLives
I'm not sure. Conflicted whether it would help, or just make them think we're scared
I am scared though. Like I said, they could wreck our game with one chariot and a little rng luck
Caledorn
Yeah, but if they think we are scared, they'll know we're a prime target
We wouldn't be scared if we could defend ourselves...
YossarianLives
But their scout hasn't found our borders, so if they are rushing someone, you'd think they'd go after the neighbor that they've already located, right?
Caledorn
Yeah, I would call it extremely unlucky if they actually come for us with that chariot
YossarianLives
We are getting the copper as soon as possible. We'll 1-turn the terrace in Silent Neighbor the same turn pottery comes in, and I'll make sure we have the workers in place to road and mine it immediately.
But I wonder if we should go for hunting-> archery soon for more protection
Caledorn
Doesn't chariots have bonuses vs axemen?
I think that if we're really spooked, we need archers
YossarianLives
And if we do, then would we want hunting before ah for the research bonus? I hate delaying ah anymore though, since we have cows and sheep that need to be improved
Caledorn
How long to complete ah?
YossarianLives
Yeah, axes are no good against chariots
Caledorn
This is something we definitely need lurker feedback on..
YossarianLives
I'm not sure, some six to eight turns I imagine
Caledorn
If you can come up with some quick scenarios I will ask scooter to take a look?
Hunting should be like 4 turns max then?
YossarianLives
Yeah, hunting should be quick
Caledorn
And is that research bonus really worth it? It's miniscule?
YossarianLives
But four more turns of not working improved food is pretty bad
Caledorn
Maybe one turn if we're lucky I'd guess without knowing the exact math
Yeah that's my thought too
YossarianLives
Research bonus would be 20%
Yeah, probably one turn
Caledorn
This is a gambit
Either we play safe and get archery asap
Which means we'll be set back behind the other teams
Or we get ah and then go for archery
YossarianLives
Yeah, what really needs to happen is gladiators need to get back to us confirming we have a NAP!
Caledorn
That I consider unlikely
YossarianLives
Yeah...
Caledorn
Since they haven't responded yet, it's fairly safe to say that they're not going to commit until they know what neighbour they want to hit with their praets
which basically means that we should either consider going after them with some axes (which would be a stupid idea really)
or we just have to hope they'll opt for their other neighbour
the distance between us is fairly spacious though
how would you say we're doing overall, compared to the other teams?
YossarianLives
Right now it seems we're middle of the pack. But we have momentum. 10 turns ago we were near the bottom
Our cities well be set to explode in growth soon
Just waiting for ah to have some decent tiles to work
Caledorn
then, I'll say we should just go ahead and do the gambit opening
which means AH->Hunting->Archery
if GG's chariot is headed our way, we lose
and the gambit didn't play out
if they're headed for the other guys, our gambit pays off, and we'll be safely put in the middle to the top of the teams
I can't see that we have much other choice if we want to stay competitive
YossarianLives
Yep. And if they come after us, they can't eliminate us yet, so our new goal becomes wrecking their game
Caledorn
yeah, sounds like a good plan
tl;dr
We're concerned about GG, so we're pushing Hunting=>Archery a little further up the research chain, but otherwise pretty much sticking to the plan and crossing our fingers that they're not sending an army out against us.