[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[TeddyKGB]

Some interesting msgs from Asterix about India mostly (my additional msg 1st).

India just planted city#6. I'm guessing its location East or SouthEast from their holy city.
Can you confirm or deny?

Hello TeddyKGB of Eggheads,

Thank you very much for being so open with me. Frankly, I have no idea how to deal with Yuufo, but I do agree that taking coordinated actions would be to our advantage and will make our position stronger, so I am all for it.

Yes, we currently have NAPs with them expiring T80. I completely agree with you that early war - even 2 vs. 1 is far from ideal. But I understand that what you are suggesting is not giving Yuufo the luxury to expanding in peace the way he does, making him realize that he either has to reach some land settling deal with us - or have to invest in some army instead of this enless settlers - seem like an excellent idea. BTW, I did not do any demohacking - and Yuufo suggested to me he has axes already - but based on his graphs I think his army is just a couple of warriors. Do you have exact data on population of his cities?

Wrt to Yuufo's new city, I cannot login into the game now, but I wanted to send you this earlier screenshot anyway. It shows a settler almost on my doorstep - my city you see to the East was settled within my capitol's cultural boundaries - so the city he settled this turn would be definitely to the East but kinda in the middle - likely about the height of my capitol. I think that Yuufo whipped another settler - or if not would do it soon .

BTW, the city he settled this turn will clearly encroach on my natural sphere of interest - and what is worst, I have a settler on the way to settle almost exactly in the same area, which will probably be not possible now. So far, in spite of Yuufo's action, I settled on his side only in my capitol's culture. Should I settle aggressively towards him now? Or is there still a chance for amicable solution and somehow convincing him to cooperation? I have no idea what to do with the settler and will have to decide within a turn, most likely. BTW, do you think he is likely to start a war over me settling aggresively towards him? I hate what he is doing, but am still not inclined to take military action, at least not just after our NAP would expire. BTW, Yuufo seems very nice as a person, but difficult to reason with in-game, he even denied he moved toward us on T1, although seems obvious from his capitol placement...

Wrt to Orgy Nized, again, I did not do any demo hacking, but I was thinking for a while LP would go for an Oracle, seems logical consequence of him researching religious techs anyway and being only IND civ. Your calculation behind him researching Writing now sounds very reasonable. Unfortunately, I would not be able to check if he got writing, because the game chat is showing me already I can offer him OB since I have Writing.

Best Wishes,

Asterix

More bad news. I logged in into the game and Yuufo has not settled yet his city near me - that would be his city #7 Or perhaps even # 8

My reply.

HI,

Quick reply. I'll add some more short after.

Thank you so much for new info. I'll sort it out, post in our team thread and will reply in full shortly.
I'm really glad both our teams are so open with each other. We are both have very tough continent, in my opinion. Other continent seems much softer in general, based on C&D.There are AGG Rome and possible early wars, but still other continent teams don't epand well, in my humble opinion.

I'm amazed how good India continue their expansion. I had no expirience in MP before PB14 beside reading reports on RB forum.
I didn't know anything about Yuffo, so I was thinking: 'some mediocre french guy, no problem'. I'm afraid I was very wrong.
I agree with you, he could be a bigger threat than LP long term.

India played starting turns close to perfect and even grab religion on the way.
In diplo e-mails I did mention border agreement to them twice, but they just ignore that part of my message.
I don't blame them. After all, IMP trait is early trait. Like CRE pretty much.

They could have some problems with research timing now (oh, I rly hope they do). After founded so many cities and go for religion, I just hope they really hurt by expences. Their cities stays pretty small in size, to my knowledge, and I'm doubt they researched Pottery yet. Damn, I rly need to refresh my C&D on them.
Another semi bright side, they did choping heavy in main land (oh, who didn't? team Pony maybe?), so their total production could be slower now. Still, new cities, religion spread and FastWorkers could prove I'm wrong here.

I assume, India could have 1-2 Axe's right now. And with their production rate and two source of copper, they could have more in the short period of turns.
Still, I'm almost 100% sure they don't have AH yet. Horses is close to their holy city, though. And there is a settler of India on your screenshot, just no tech for them yet.

This e-mail isn't full reply to yours, but I'm a bit tired now. I'll add some later, most likely.

If you agree to chat sometimes, I'm totally for it. Could be much easier to discuss some topics.
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Regards,
TeddyKGB, team EggHeads