[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[TeddyKGB]

Chat with Yuufo, team CareBears. Some interesting info inside, I'll do cliffnotes soon.
Long nonformated chat under spoiler.

LexIVn (18:04:04 12/10/2013)
Hi, TeddyKGB here.
I'm pretty much near PC for the next 4-6 hours, so ready to talk whenever you like.

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:37:02 12/10/2013)
Hi Alexei?

LexIVn (18:37:13 12/10/2013)
Hi

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:37:28 12/10/2013)
So are you ready to talk now?

LexIVn (18:37:44 12/10/2013)
5 min pls

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:37:49 12/10/2013)
Sure

LexIVn (18:47:44 12/10/2013)
ok, ready.

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:47:49 12/10/2013)
Good

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:48:09 12/10/2013)
So what did we want to talk about? :-)

LexIVn (18:48:15 12/10/2013)
congrats on your 7th city
pretty impressive expansion

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:48:43 12/10/2013)
Thanks. You have 4 I think?

LexIVn (18:48:47 12/10/2013)
well, we could talk about LP and some possible coalition

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:49:13 12/10/2013)
I would really like to know who is getting the Oracle

LexIVn (18:49:19 12/10/2013)
yup 4th planted on T58, I told u about its location

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:49:20 12/10/2013)
that would change a lot for the future

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:49:36 12/10/2013)
Oracle is ready by turn flip

LexIVn (18:49:55 12/10/2013)
well, I was sure LP get it before T60
I was wrong

LexIVn (18:50:31 12/10/2013)
probably not enough workers to chop it fast for LP

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:50:48 12/10/2013)
Our city 6 is located rather in your direction. It could be used for trade routes

LexIVn (18:51:11 12/10/2013)
could you tell it exact location?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:51:21 12/10/2013)
Sure.

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:51:43 12/10/2013)
Do you have the map of the region northeast of you?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:51:52 12/10/2013)
there is a river with a rice field

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:52:03 12/10/2013)
the city is located 1 from the rice field

LexIVn (18:52:12 12/10/2013)
yup

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:52:14 12/10/2013)
so it lies on the river

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:52:24 12/10/2013)
we could use the river for trade

LexIVn (18:52:59 12/10/2013)
is it SW from rice with plain cow in BFC?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:53:16 12/10/2013)
yes the cow is 2-2 from the city (named Cheer)

LexIVn (18:54:36 12/10/2013)
ok, I see
its pretty close to us. 6 tiles from our capital and 9 from yours
we could use river for trade indeed

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:54:59 12/10/2013)
yes even if this requires Sailing

LexIVn (18:55:29 12/10/2013)
well, our timing for writing pretty late, around T61

LexIVn (18:55:43 12/10/2013)
and we are not sure about sailing yet

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:55:48 12/10/2013)
MM had it some turns ago

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:55:50 12/10/2013)
(writing)

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:55:58 12/10/2013)
we don't go for it. no point

LexIVn (18:56:10 12/10/2013)
yup, I know
and Oxy had it on T53

LexIVn (18:56:32 12/10/2013)
i understand. how about sailing for u?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:56:55 12/10/2013)
well that was not the plan but if we really have to we'll research it

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:57:18 12/10/2013)
note that if you have sailing and I don't, you get trade route benefits and not me

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:57:36 12/10/2013)
so I think it's up to every team to schedule Sailing conveniently

LexIVn (18:57:40 12/10/2013)
well, we could build roads and get trade routes without sailing anyway

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:57:54 12/10/2013)
that's true. I will certainly do that with MM

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:58:38 12/10/2013)
but for now your frontier is right far away

LexIVn (18:58:46 12/10/2013)
could you tell us what is ur plan for future expansion in our direction?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:59:09 12/10/2013)
well it is not decided yet

carebearspb14@gmail.com (18:59:31 12/10/2013)
as I said playing with / without oracle will change many things

LexIVn (18:59:34 12/10/2013)
we'll put our city#5 or #6 close to your city#6. that was our plan

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:00:09 12/10/2013)
could you be more specific about the location? I have 2 fast workers in the neighborhood and could arrange some roads

LexIVn (19:00:10 12/10/2013)
so, you not interested in talking about border agreement?

LexIVn (19:00:33 12/10/2013)
i'm not sure about location and timing yet

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:00:37 12/10/2013)
I am. but I would rather wait next turn

LexIVn (19:01:01 12/10/2013)
ok, i understand. good luck with oracle

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:01:10 12/10/2013)
thanks

LexIVn (19:01:17 12/10/2013)
will u take MC?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:01:31 12/10/2013)
if we manage to connect our road networks you'll have a chance at Confu spreads

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:01:43 12/10/2013)
did LP tell you he had the other religion?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:01:50 12/10/2013)
Yes Metal Casting is the plan

LexIVn (19:02:05 12/10/2013)
we will have contact with LP next turn

LexIVn (19:02:33 12/10/2013)
but GNP70 suggest its LP who fouded another religion

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:02:55 12/10/2013)
maybe

LexIVn (19:03:11 12/10/2013)
i'm like 99% its LP

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:03:17 12/10/2013)
of course we'd be glad if you embraced our religion :-)

LexIVn (19:03:33 12/10/2013)
of course

LexIVn (19:04:21 12/10/2013)
what u think about LP in general? is he a favorite to win?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:04:32 12/10/2013)
I don't know him very well

LexIVn (19:04:49 12/10/2013)
did u play vs him before?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:04:53 12/10/2013)
but he is regarded as a skilled player

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:04:57 12/10/2013)
maybe once

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:05:09 12/10/2013)
I think we fought in a german pitboss

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:05:14 12/10/2013)
he killed me :-/

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:05:24 12/10/2013)
that was long ago.

LexIVn (19:05:24 12/10/2013)
that sux

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:05:55 12/10/2013)
if LP is so strong he'll need to be contained and we will obviously help

LexIVn (19:07:53 12/10/2013)
what MM says about LP? is Asterix join to anti LP coalition if we start one?
u dont have to tell me confident staff between u and MM

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:07:54 12/10/2013)
Well I think you can prepare border plans if you have any.

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:08:28 12/10/2013)
actually we didn't about that already

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:08:46 12/10/2013)
Asterix doesnt' have LP as neighbor I think

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:08:53 12/10/2013)
he may have more immediate concerns

LexIVn (19:08:59 12/10/2013)
so, assuming u get oracle, will u plan to expand more in our direction?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:09:30 12/10/2013)
that depends what you call your direction

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:09:42 12/10/2013)
we are conscious that we have an IMP trait

LexIVn (19:09:51 12/10/2013)
obv

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:09:55 12/10/2013)
and that negociating 50-50 border deals is bad for us

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:10:13 12/10/2013)
since we wouldn't take advantage of it and both you and MM are CRE

LexIVn (19:10:28 12/10/2013)
we are not FIN

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:10:47 12/10/2013)
No but you are creative

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:10:53 12/10/2013)
your borders will easily expand

LexIVn (19:10:56 12/10/2013)
we need some land to stay copetitive on tech

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:11:03 12/10/2013)
and that will make you grab land

LexIVn (19:11:09 12/10/2013)
CRE is early trait

LexIVn (19:11:23 12/10/2013)
pretty much overrated to my liking

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:11:33 12/10/2013)
so why did you pick it? :-)

LexIVn (19:11:50 12/10/2013)
well, i'm just a dedlurker

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:11:57 12/10/2013)
ok

LexIVn (19:13:00 12/10/2013)
DMOC is our main player
but he is busy with school for now, so i'm taking over for a while. and consulting with him in the thread

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:13:55 12/10/2013)
what can you tell me about your general plans?

LexIVn (19:16:02 12/10/2013)
our city#5 should be planted in late 60th
so far we are expanded south and north, completely non aggressive
i think our city#5 will be close to ur rice city. not 2 tiles close, but close enough. its location is TBD

LexIVn (19:16:53 12/10/2013)
we want to compensate non FIN, so probably early libraries and maybe early GS for us

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:17:04 12/10/2013)
Sounds good

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:17:25 12/10/2013)
of course if we get the Oracle the first GP will be priest/engineer

LexIVn (19:19:02 12/10/2013)
did u get lucky with religion spread so far?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:19:10 12/10/2013)
no, just the capital

LexIVn (19:19:31 12/10/2013)
any plans for monotheism?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:20:00 12/10/2013)
we'll need it for Rel org. But we don't want to found another religion. So it will be delayed

LexIVn (19:20:58 12/10/2013)
could u tell me ur timing on city#8?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:21:39 12/10/2013)
not early

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:21:49 12/10/2013)
we have to make cities grow a bit

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:22:23 12/10/2013)
for us building a settler is quite easy

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:22:32 12/10/2013)
just chop a forest and slave 1 pop

LexIVn (19:23:07 12/10/2013)
yup, and u probably has a big expanses right now

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:23:33 12/10/2013)
that's ok, I don't think that gnp is so important at this point of the game

LexIVn (19:23:34 12/10/2013)
we do and we have 3 less cities

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:24:05 12/10/2013)
and as FIN we just have to build some cottages to break even

LexIVn (19:24:05 12/10/2013)
yup, food and hammers more important

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:24:29 12/10/2013)
there is a gold mine for our city 5. it was useful

LexIVn (19:25:02 12/10/2013)
yup, u have nicer land in general, as i see it

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:25:25 12/10/2013)
:-)

LexIVn (19:25:37 12/10/2013)
settling capital on PH was a nice move also

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:25:46 12/10/2013)
it quite always is

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:25:56 12/10/2013)
I don't understand we were the only ones to move

LexIVn (19:26:02 12/10/2013)
yup, i agree

LexIVn (19:26:34 12/10/2013)
to tell the truth, i was arguing about PH plant in our thread

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:26:53 12/10/2013)
but this came at the cost of losing the fish

LexIVn (19:27:27 12/10/2013)
u dont lose it in fact, just lose +1food from LH

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:27:58 12/10/2013)
long term capital yield is not my concern. I rather have a dynamic early capital

LexIVn (19:28:28 12/10/2013)
i understand, as i said - very impressive start

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:28:35 12/10/2013)
thanks

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:28:47 12/10/2013)
I hope it will be crowned by a wonder :-)

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:28:58 12/10/2013)
about wonders, maybe you have plans of your own?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:29:03 12/10/2013)
I noticed there were stones

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:29:11 12/10/2013)
couldn't locate marble however

LexIVn (19:29:34 12/10/2013)
our scouts didn't find any stone or marble

LexIVn (19:29:45 12/10/2013)
could u tell us stone location?

LexIVn (19:30:12 12/10/2013)
i assume there could be some marble on the islands

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:31:02 12/10/2013)
Sure

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:31:14 12/10/2013)
Indeed stones are not far away from your land

LexIVn (19:31:56 12/10/2013)
not much wonders plan for us so far
beside national ones

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:32:01 12/10/2013)
from the rice field of our city 7, it is 6 tiles in the south

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:32:09 12/10/2013)
in a desert

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:32:56 12/10/2013)
since these stones are in a potentially disputed region and we won't need them all the time I think we could think about some kind of time-sharing arrangement

LexIVn (19:35:07 12/10/2013)
let me think about it.
could u tell me stone location from copper tile?
we haven't scouted this area yet, but I think 6 tiles south from ur city isn't desert tile

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:35:40 12/10/2013)
let me go in game quickly

LexIVn (19:35:48 12/10/2013)
ok, ty

LexIVn (19:36:01 12/10/2013)
any screenshots or info u need from us?

LexIVn (19:36:39 12/10/2013)
based on our minimap u could ask for screenshots u want

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:36:49 12/10/2013)
maybe we could share information about the southern region?

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:36:56 12/10/2013)
I mean south of copper, stone

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:37:13 12/10/2013)
(stone is 4 tiles east of your capitals copper)

LexIVn (19:38:44 12/10/2013)
so, stone exactly 3 tile south of plain cow in ur city6 BFC?

we dont have much info on south region
we were planing to go back with scout, but ur city3 blocked our way

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:40:07 12/10/2013)
I just sent over a map - I bet it's clearer this way

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:40:21 12/10/2013)
a screenshot of "your" part of this region would be appreciated

LexIVn (19:40:33 12/10/2013)
i'll be afk for next 20-30 min. nice talking with u

LexIVn (19:40:38 12/10/2013)
thank you

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:40:45 12/10/2013)
sorry for city 3 blocking the way. as I said you can pass as you get Writing

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:40:49 12/10/2013)
thanks too, see you later

LexIVn (19:41:02 12/10/2013)
i'll send screenshot after come back in 20-30 min

carebearspb14@gmail.com (19:41:14 12/10/2013)
Bye Alexei

LexIVn (19:41:30 12/10/2013)
bye Yuufo

Screenshot from India, stone location and land between our capitals.

2 kind of news here: bad news and more bad news.
I'll cliff soon.
I'm thinking about go back in game and change CM to chariot. And I'm not sure we should stick to the NAP with India till T75.
City 'Cheers' was planted 6 tiles from our capital any 9 tiles from theirs. We have to consider some military action soon and breaking NAP if necessary.

Yuufo is a nice guy and competent player, obv. I'm really impressed how India expand, grab religion and on the flip from Oracle right now.