Unformated chat with SutOxy:
Cliff notes:
- OS frustated with Asterix right now. Ask us to help improve their relation. I agree.
- About India. I told them we are not happy with India's expansion, and Asterix most likely unhappy too.
I did mention our team considering possibility of relatively early military actions.
- About LP.
Quote: LexIVn (03:50:11 15/10/2013)
Hi, TeddyKGB here.
In case you want to chat fast about something.
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:25:31 15/10/2013)
Yay, chat!
LexIVn (04:26:27 15/10/2013)
LexIVn (04:27:14 15/10/2013)
congrats on your expansion. pretty impressive, as I can see
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:29:18 15/10/2013)
Expansive is fun! How are things going in the diplo world? Does Asterix still hate us?
LexIVn (04:31:06 15/10/2013)
exp fun indeed.
i'm not sure hate is the right word, but he did complain a bit about you in our exchange.
i'm thinking both of you should try to improve relations, tho
LexIVn (04:32:25 15/10/2013)
india expanded very aggressively toward him and us
and now they also landed oracle
pretty scary
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:34:35 15/10/2013)
well, we're not really sure how to proceed. Both teams would benefit if we negotiated our border area - we've made a concrete proposal, and he ignored it. Imp India is playing a very aggressive opening - how can we work together to keep the peace?
LexIVn (04:37:22 15/10/2013)
imo, we could form some 4vs1 early (including LP)
i really don't want our team in some kind of early warfare, but we are currently considering this option
LexIVn (04:37:40 15/10/2013)
i hope u wont mention it to other teams
LexIVn (04:38:21 15/10/2013)
im certanly not expecting some military help from u or LP
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:39:32 15/10/2013)
we committed to keeping our correspondence private, and we keep our word.
LexIVn (04:39:44 15/10/2013)
but we may need some deals with LP to protect us from the west.
same with asterix and you, if he decide to join our attack on india
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:41:25 15/10/2013)
We don't want India to run away with the game either. But Asterix won't make for a very good ally if we can't resolve our border situation.
LexIVn (04:42:19 15/10/2013)
whats wrong with ur border situation? he mention to me u already make borders deal which u propose
LexIVn (04:43:53 15/10/2013)
after i sent him ur msg, u allow me to send, he was a bit confused u mention border agreement again
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:44:47 15/10/2013)
Yes - our capitals are 16T apart. We agreed with Maga to not settle more than 5T from our caps, with the expectation that we could negotiate for the 1T strip in the middle. Maga quit, and left us in the lurch.
LexIVn (04:45:37 15/10/2013)
Asterix did mention he will honored all Maga's deals in tech thread
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:46:42 15/10/2013)
While, from what you're saying Asterix doesn't know what the situation is. It should have been clear from our border proposal, but perhaps he can't count.
LexIVn (04:48:05 15/10/2013)
so, you'd like to keep this borders deal (5 tiles from capital) with him for now?
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:49:58 15/10/2013)
Of course! But neither we nor he can use the strip of land 8T from our caps until we come to an agreement.
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:51:23 15/10/2013)
If what you're saying is correct, he hasn't even thought about the situation.
LexIVn (04:52:07 15/10/2013)
u could clear this thing with him, maybe agree to OB for trade routes.
if u didn't OB with him, i'm afraid he could have no choice but establish trade routes with runaway india
LexIVn (04:52:35 15/10/2013)
i'm there is some simple misunderstanding between u and him
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:53:50 15/10/2013)
We'll send another message, but we're not sure how useful Asterix will be as an ally if he can't even read the map.
LexIVn (04:53:53 15/10/2013)
personally, i'm a bit overwhelmed with diplo info right now
LexIVn (04:55:04 15/10/2013)
do u know Asterix from before? did u played with each other?
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:55:20 15/10/2013)
No, I know nothing about him.
ecpb14@gmail.com (04:56:29 15/10/2013)
Thanks for your help in working this stuff out, KGB. Diplo is time consuming.
LexIVn (04:56:36 15/10/2013)
i didn't ask him, but i think he has similar nick on CFC.
he did played xOTM there succesfully
LexIVn (04:56:45 15/10/2013)
yes, indeed
LexIVn (04:59:50 15/10/2013)
anyway, we are all on tough part of the map. other 5 teams seems much softer, except Yossadorn maybe.
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:02:57 15/10/2013)
If you're chatting with Asterix tell him this: Your capital is 16T away from the OxySut capital. If neither team can settle more than 5T from its capital, there is a strip of land 8T from both capitals that is inaccessible. OxySut is willing to work with you to keep the peace with India, including Open Borders, provided you negotiate access to 8T neutral zone.
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:03:34 15/10/2013)
If we can't work together, both teams lose access to this strip of land.
LexIVn (05:05:45 15/10/2013)
> OxySut is willing to work with you to keep the peace with India, including Open Borders, provided you negotiate access to 8T neutral zone.
what u mean? how u see Asterix should behave toward runaway india?
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:08:43 15/10/2013)
That's for him to decide. Right now, I'm sure the Indian economy is a mess, so you do have an opportunity to push pack if India is stealing your land. We can provide Asterix with a secure border where the land is fairly divided between our two civs. Presumably, India is settling across the midpoint.
LexIVn (05:12:11 15/10/2013)
i'm sure that too about india's economy.
but i'm worried if you and Asterix cant agree on trade routes, he'll keep his OB with india and help them a bit to get out from the hole
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:14:41 15/10/2013)
What do you think of that strategy? Do you know if India is settling land that ought to belong to Asterix - or have they come to a border agreement?
LexIVn (05:17:09 15/10/2013)
i can't disclose, u should ask him yourself
India settled their city#6 6 tiles away from our capital. i did mention india also settled aggressive toward Asterix. u should ask him, i'm sure he is not happy about india's expansion
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:19:24 15/10/2013)
I understand - but if you have plans to reign in India, you're going to need Asterix's help. It's in your interest to explain to him that allying with a civ that is stealing his land is rather silly if there is a neighbouring civ that is willing to share the land.
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:21:55 15/10/2013)
Again, we will send him another letter with spelling things out in detail. With pictures this time. To be honest, I'm not sure he even took the time to read our last letter if what you've shared above is accurate.
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:22:29 15/10/2013)
I don't think he likes us though, so it might be helpful if you engage him also.
LexIVn (05:23:20 15/10/2013)
well, i can draft a msg to Asterix with your quotes from this chat, send it to you for approving and send to Asterix after u agree. as i said i dont wanna disclose some confident info, and i will not. but it maybe in your interest to sort things out with Asterix fast
LexIVn (05:25:57 15/10/2013)
i didn't reply to Asterix last 2 days or so.
i was pretty busy.
its my fault, i maybe mislead u about Asterix reaction. last msg from him to me was 2-3 days ago and we didn't chat once
LexIVn (05:27:51 15/10/2013)
i have to reply to him myself, but there is so much better just to chat. i'm glad you and me start chatting.
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:28:29 15/10/2013)
No worries - time is scarce. We'll draft a message to Asterix when we get a chance.
LexIVn (05:30:32 15/10/2013)
game will be down in several days due to Caledorn move to new flat.
i hope its a good time to catch up with diplo
LexIVn (05:32:04 15/10/2013)
i'm gonna mention to Asterix u want to work together and he should expect e-mail from u soon
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:36:41 15/10/2013)
Please also include the text I wrote above - chatting with you makes me think he doesn't even know the situation:
LexIVn (05:37:21 15/10/2013)
what u think about LP? u did mention ur relations much better compaired to Asterix
our team just contact him (on T60). we have some short deals already.
i was almost sure LP build oracle before T60. i'm assuming he is the one with another religion.
LexIVn (05:38:39 15/10/2013)
sure, i'll mention anything u allow.
i'm honestly think it would be better if u and him cooperate more
LexIVn (05:43:35 15/10/2013)
Yos planted 4th city and turn rolled btw
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:43:51 15/10/2013)
Yes, LP founded Hinduism. LP is LP - he's going to play to win. That's both a bad and a good thing, I guess.
ecpb14@gmail.com (05:45:18 15/10/2013)
Hmmm.. probably should go check out the turn before heading out. Thanks again!
LexIVn (05:45:45 15/10/2013)
i had no exp in mp but i read a lot of reports.
basically i was thinking LP is favorite in PB14
LexIVn (05:47:26 15/10/2013)
np. whenever u like to chat, I would like it very much
i'm in Russia but i could be online at night too. its 5:47 am here
LexIVn (05:47:50 15/10/2013)
nice to talking with u
Cliff notes:
- OS frustated with Asterix right now. Ask us to help improve their relation. I agree.
Quote:We don't want India to run away with the game either. But Asterix won't make for a very good ally if we can't resolve our border situation.
Quote:Yes - our capitals are 16T apart. We agreed with Maga to not settle more than 5T from our caps, with the expectation that we could negotiate for the 1T strip in the middle. Maga quit, and left us in the lurch.
Quote:We'll send another message, but we're not sure how useful Asterix will be as an ally if he can't even read the map.
Quote:If you're chatting with Asterix tell him this: Your capital is 16T away from the OxySut capital. If neither team can settle more than 5T from its capital, there is a strip of land 8T from both capitals that is inaccessible. OxySut is willing to work with you to keep the peace with India, including Open Borders, provided you negotiate access to 8T neutral zone.
- About India. I told them we are not happy with India's expansion, and Asterix most likely unhappy too.
I did mention our team considering possibility of relatively early military actions.
Quote:Right now, I'm sure the Indian economy is a mess, so you do have an opportunity to push pack if India is stealing your land. We can provide Asterix with a secure border where the land is fairly divided between our two civs. Presumably, India is settling across the midpoint.
Quote:if you have plans to reign in India, you're going to need Asterix's help. It's in your interest to explain to him that allying with a civ that is stealing his land is rather silly if there is a neighbouring civ that is willing to share the land.
- About LP.
Quote:Yes, LP founded Hinduism. LP is LP - he's going to play to win. That's both a bad and a good thing, I guess.