Two things that I forgot to report! When I logged in at the night:
1. dtay offered world map trade
2. Jowy/TBS offered OB deal.
I declined both, but maybe this has an impact on how we plan to deal with them..
I think we have two options. I'm pretty sure he is heading to that plains hill W of rice.
1. Settle the iron city next turn. It sucks, because we probably give up rice and definitely 2nd dyes resource and can't work iron.
But it's still better than giving the whole area to m_h. At least we can share bananas, get 1 dyes resource, defensible border and bunch of grassland tiles
2. We declare war to m_h, move our bowman to that plains hill and our spear to "another x". This way we might get our preferred site, but it's a bit bold..

It's really annoying that if we would take our preffered spot and m_h would go to that plains hill, we would only lose the settling race because of turn order..
This would be a perfect time to double-move, but I guess we have to just 
How's your feeling? Let's continue our aggressive expansion policy or suck it and settle on that iron..?
I trust your judgement here, but at this point I would accept both options. 2nd option is just super-high-risk-ok-reward type of thing.. 
Yeah, chop into settler sounds good. And I guess we could start pasturing that horse, the worker can help with the new riverside cottage once the other worker has cleared the jungle.
I like your thinking here!
But I think the defending odds are better than you state because of amphibitious attack penalty! Let's put stick and Yossarian on that hill! I think it's enough to only bring Viqsi or Hydra into Jamestown so that our units are less out of position though. But since suttree does not have anything on the staging tile, I'm fine with bringing both if you want. So let's have at least 1 bowman(oxy) + spear(krill) + axe(viqsi?) in Jamestown.
I think we should promote Hykephalos, but let him heal for 1 turn in Hastings. He can still attack rice tile if needed and higher HP kind of compensates for the river attack penalty. We have a chance to heal him so let's use it! It would be a pity if we move him onto hill and suttree moves next turn to staging tile with axes and our killer is not in shape!
Not moving Matt is good.
Maybe we are in settling race here as well? I think we could move the spear in Endor already towards site K. I would feel better if we would have spear+bowman to show dtay that he won't get an easy raze chance. Endor can still do an emergency whip if needed and after the settler is produced it should build a defender for itself.
So what I'm suggesting is keeping the spear in range to defend Endor, but already put it closer to city K.
go ahead!
Hmm.. It's slightly risky, but I say, let's whip the granary. But at the same time let's be conservative in the sense that we move 1 worker onto forest N-NW of Hastings. Suttree's power graph looks so depressing that we probably want to get an extra axe out of the city in 4 turns.. I have no strong opinion here though so feel free to disagree and play it differently!
1. dtay offered world map trade
2. Jowy/TBS offered OB deal.
I declined both, but maybe this has an impact on how we plan to deal with them..
(November 1st, 2013, 04:14)Old Harry Wrote: I think we still have a chance of settling our iron city with m_h. If we move our settler to the iron this turn his only choice is to settle in place, and he can only do that if he moves the archer to "another x" first and spots what we're doing. If he doesn't notice or he moves 1E to the plains hill we can settle on iron. If he does settle in place we can settle the hill next to the sugar and contest the iron and rice. Or we go to the coastal site to try to steal the corn (perhaps a really dumb move?) I haven't moved anything yet as you may have other opinions here.
I think we have two options. I'm pretty sure he is heading to that plains hill W of rice.
1. Settle the iron city next turn. It sucks, because we probably give up rice and definitely 2nd dyes resource and can't work iron.

2. We declare war to m_h, move our bowman to that plains hill and our spear to "another x". This way we might get our preferred site, but it's a bit bold..


It's really annoying that if we would take our preffered spot and m_h would go to that plains hill, we would only lose the settling race because of turn order..


How's your feeling? Let's continue our aggressive expansion policy or suck it and settle on that iron..?


Quote:Our friend dtay has a galley here, I was planning to move the worker by Issy to road the forest this turn, but we don't have cover for him. How about chopping that forest into the settler for France instead? Issy pops borders in five turns. Down south should G pasture the horse instead of starting on the next jungle?
Yeah, chop into settler sounds good. And I guess we could start pasturing that horse, the worker can help with the new riverside cottage once the other worker has cleared the jungle.
Quote:And I think I know Suttree's sinister plan now. If he'd left the galley 1S he could have hit our worker out of the fog. As it is we have a choice. Cover the worker, cover the rice or cover both. Presumably there are two Axes on board, so on the hill one bowman gets 80-90% odds of defending, but that means the second axe will likely kill him. If we put units on the rice all the defensive battles are coin flips. I'd suggest putting thestick and yossarianlives on the hill to make them land on the rice, bringing THH and Viqsi to Jamestown, giving Hykephalos CI to bring him back up to 77 HP, then moving him to one of the two hills from where he'd get 65% against a CI axe. We then give Thestick Shock and he gets 73% against a CI axe. Actually Thestick might be more expendable than HykephalosAny thoughts?
I like your thinking here!

I think we should promote Hykephalos, but let him heal for 1 turn in Hastings. He can still attack rice tile if needed and higher HP kind of compensates for the river attack penalty. We have a chance to heal him so let's use it! It would be a pity if we move him onto hill and suttree moves next turn to staging tile with axes and our killer is not in shape!
Quote:Up here it looks like dtay is keeping an eye on this region, not sure why, but I didn't move Matt this turn as I don't want to tip our hand just yet (and unit costs). He'll have to move to the forest next turn with the worker.
Not moving Matt is good.

So what I'm suggesting is keeping the spear in range to defend Endor, but already put it closer to city K.
Quote: whip worker in Gallipoli
go ahead!
Quote:whip granary in Hastings (also what are we doing with the worker and the forest chop?)
Hmm.. It's slightly risky, but I say, let's whip the granary. But at the same time let's be conservative in the sense that we move 1 worker onto forest N-NW of Hastings. Suttree's power graph looks so depressing that we probably want to get an extra axe out of the city in 4 turns.. I have no strong opinion here though so feel free to disagree and play it differently!