[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[DMOC]

From Blame Caledorn:

I finally chatted with Asterix today. Rome says they will be attacking soon with praets, but claims they have not settled on a target yet. According to Asterix, Rome will agree to target India if both of you + Asterix agree to a coalition against India, so you all fight together. In addition, they want land concessions from us.

What do you guys think? I would need to discuss with Caledorn, but in theory I am willing to give a favorable land agreement to Rome in exchange for them sending armies against India instead of any of our teams. Would you be willing to work with Rome and Ottomans against India?

I think that together we can hold off any attack from Rome without needing to agree to this, but this might be the cheapest way to protect ourselves from praets. I am going to try sending another email to Rome to see if I can get more information from them about what type of land concessions they want.

I'm attaching pictures from this turn.

-YossarianLives

This is Teddy's response

Hi,

To tell the truth, I don't like this deal.
- I dont like our teams diplo go through 3rd party, who has lowest military and tech like crazy atm. Asterix got CoL last turn, building wealth, not units
- Howewer Rome is strong, we should be able to defend from it and maybe split his land 3way later. If we all 3 keep working together.
- I have my suspicions GG and MM just decide to work together before game started. GG wont play for win, they will play for MM win. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

Saying all this, Rome moved chariot from Antium. He scout our forces (#2 now, but far beyond Rome's power). Still no roading toward us and no sign of stack of Praets.

We need some intel on Iron city. Could you look at it, Dinos?

Here is Antium from last turn.

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There is sentry chariot under our chariot.
We have visual on Rome's tech now, ty guys for telling us Rome's tech before.

Damn, I wanna raze Antium somehow soon.

Anyone find Rome's SoD?

-TKGB

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From Asterix:

Hi DMOC,

We are relatively close up North and I thought you could send us unit on a galley. Yuufo seems to avoid coastal cities and I think his culture is not blocking naval passage, we could also include galley as part of the trade.

I saw your great production - I guess Moai's are part of it. We may also warm up to trading for Stone, but talking into account the geopolitics, we thought arming is most important. On the other hand, Stone is good for walls. Do you have any ETA on cataphracts? I had also interesting chat with Romans, who told me about your defensive pact against them. If you would like to chat about geopolitics, I also got some other interesting info.

BTW, do you know if Orgy has Marble? We were surprise by how quickly Suttocrats built Mausoleum and thought that somebody must gave them marble, although when we checked could not see anybody doing it, but might just be too late.

What kind of Calendar happy resources you will have for trade? As everyone else, we have tons of healthy resource, so we must have decline now trading incense for healthy.

Cheers,

Asterix

I responded to Asterix:

Asterix,

I'd like to discuss 2 primary points.

(1) We've just found out that Rome will be attacking someone soon. Fortunately, we only have one city bordering them (and our cultures don't even touch at all!), and we're about to get Construction soon, so we should be able to hold off an attack from them based on how many axes we're packing down south (and how many are heading south right now). However, Rome apparently will agree to attack India if they have enough concessions from us. While we need to discuss this with our allies, do you know why Rome is only communicating with you? Ideally, if we work together with Rome, we need a guarantee that Rome will agree to communicate with us.

(2) Related to happiness, India has offered us fur in exchange for 5 gold per turn. We want to agree to this, but at the same time, we don't want to keep helping out India if we can avoid it. Thus, this makes it even more important to communicate with Rome. (We haven't responded to India's offer yet.) Note: 5 gold per turn is more in line of what I was hoping to trade for a happiness resource. If you're okay with doing a 5gpt trade for incense, we might be able to do that (if not, no worries).

No ETA on Cataphracts, and we will be trading stone from turns 102 to turn 111 (including turn 111). After that, we are not sure how we will use the stone.


Sincerely,
DMOC of Team EggHeads

Hope that message seems good. I have to say, due to the lack of roads, lack of cultural border contact, and our own status as the #2 military power, I seriously doubt Rome is aiming for us. (And if they are, we've got more cities than them and can whip more axes (and soon, catapults) to them, such that we should be able to win any long-term battle, especially with the help of Blame Caledorn and Dinosaurs. And I agree that I don't want to let Asterix control two civilizations here.

So I'm basically forcing Asterix to play into our hands. Basically, Rome's got to communicate with us, and if Asterix isn't willing to trade us incense for 5gpt we might as well trade with Care Bears. At the very least, we can use the fur for 10 turns while we spread our religion around. (And once we get Construction, we can whip Creative-enhance Colloseums.) Then again, with the silk coming up for turns 102 to 111 we do have at least a +1 boost soon.

We are short on gold but we have lots of production that we can convert into wealth.

Also, now that we have Hinduism, I think it's safe to say that we should try and head to Monotheism after Construction.

Edit: Asterix responded

Hi,

I have news on Rome and I will trade you happy to counter India's offer. I would also like to discuss long-term NAP between us. You are growing very powerful and we want to make sure we will be better off with you as neighbors rather than India I hope you do not trade Stone to India - it can be used to build walls .

I will be available for chat later today.

Asterix