I still think we want the missionary, so what do you think of removing the gold offer? So worker <-> missionary? We can make up for the gold if Arki builds the AP. Of course, that's if he intends to do it ... will wait for your input.
Also, it's pretty amazing how we've managed to surpass India in score, but we can also write to Arki that it's because we're creative and rushed land hard, and because India isn't getting a lot of points from tech. In addition, we have The Hanging Gardens, which is great for short-term score but doesn't give us the long-term benefit that the MoM gives. Say, is Arkipeller worried about SutOxy? I mean, they are by far the bigger threat than we are, so I wonder how their diplomacy is like. Maybe asking SutOxy would be good for this, because they probably trust us more than Arki does, since we're not direct neighbors.
One last thing -- did India ever switch to Representation? If not, this has to be the most bizarre use of The Pyramids that I've seen in a human game.
EDIT: Send this to Orgynized?
Also, it's pretty amazing how we've managed to surpass India in score, but we can also write to Arki that it's because we're creative and rushed land hard, and because India isn't getting a lot of points from tech. In addition, we have The Hanging Gardens, which is great for short-term score but doesn't give us the long-term benefit that the MoM gives. Say, is Arkipeller worried about SutOxy? I mean, they are by far the bigger threat than we are, so I wonder how their diplomacy is like. Maybe asking SutOxy would be good for this, because they probably trust us more than Arki does, since we're not direct neighbors.
One last thing -- did India ever switch to Representation? If not, this has to be the most bizarre use of The Pyramids that I've seen in a human game.
EDIT: Send this to Orgynized?
Quote:Arkipeller,
We're disappointed that you're not going to honor your end of the deal, since we already had a worker in place to gift to you and thus had to modify its actions accordingly. In addition, in our earlier agreement, you never said you were going to build The Apostolic Palace. If I had known that, I would have offered a different deal to make up for that.
But since it seems like you'll obtain The Apostolic Palace and will use Hindiusm as the religion, we're happy to retract the old 40 gold we added on the deal. How about we instead do a straight up missionry-for-worker trade? That way, you'll get 20 extra hammers from the worker-missionary price difference.We can still get the worker to you by turn 105 if needed, and we're happy to give it to you a turn earlier.
Also, would it be okay if you instead gifted us the missionary once it's in our borders, rather than putting him in a city? This is all contingent on you sticking with your Apostolic Palace and Hinduism plan.
I also know you're interested in (1) our score, and (2) our relation with India, so let me clarify this to remove any ambiguity.
(1) Our score is high mainly because we're creative and tried to settle many cities as quickly as our economy could afford them, which let us grab a ton of land early, and (2) because we built The Hanging Gardens. That wonder is really good for short-term score, but it doesn't give us any long-term benefit since we have more than enough health right now. In the meantime, other teams are in better positions than us. SutOxy, for instance, has the Mausoleum of Maussolos, so I actually think they are the current "runaway" civ in this game, since they could cleverly chain Golden Ages to Liberalism and then get The Taj Mahal. (I'm not sure how your relations are like with them at the moment, but I'd be at least a little wary.)
India can also leverage The Pyramids to increase their tech rate and thus their overall advantage over us. Not to mention that both of those teams are also Financial and, from what we can tell, have better land for cottaging (more rivers), which means their advantage will only increase as the game proceeds.
Finally, we're going to be distracted in the short-term from research due to our Roman neighbors. We are being forced to build up our military to protect ourselves, so you'll see a whipping spree in the next few turns. Meanwhile, SutOxy appear to be relatively safe now.
(2) Now let's discuss India. I'm not sure why you think we're in an alliance. All we have now are open borders and an NAP, which is also what we have with many other teams. It's the most sensible thing to do, after all. And since we do have Rome as our neighbors, we want to make sure we are friends -- or at least, not enemies -- with India, as well as you.
I look forward to your response about the worker/missionary deal, and feel free to ask other questions that might interest you.
Sincerely,
DMOC of Team EggHeads