[Spoilers] Fintourist and Old Harry have nothing to see here

[Fintourist]

I imagined that Azza would put up a decent defence, but now I checked civstats and see that he also plays ~6 minutes per turn

I'd suggest observing Azza's score decreases for whips, more than Lewger's WW or the amount of time Azza takes to play.

Oh, I know that Azza is whipping. While that certainly is better than what was done in the previous war on that continent, whipping + 5 min turns does not meet my definition of "decent defense". Although that is probably already enough to ensure that Lewwyn is not going to get even close to similar gains as the two leaders got.

(I'd prefer to stay in Slavery due to the threat of mackoti intervening while we're at war with suttree, but that's just me.)

So are you back now Fintourist? You mentioned being at the university - I think that means in Finland? If so, welcome home! (Er, I guess that doesn't make much sense since I live on a different continent, but you know what I mean.)

Thanks! I'm back in Finland now and trying to catch up with everything (not only civ but life as well). I enjoyed reading your chat logs with OH, it's so great that you managed to remain unspoiled until now. Re slavery: I share your worry. Overall I think it would make more sense for mackoti to pile on suttree than attack us, and strictly domestically Caste is better than Slavery right now, but...