Chatted with TT (Russia) over my email:
Gaspar, thoughts? My thought is basically I want to go ahead with this. If he burns us, he burns us, that's the game. If it's not him to burn us, it may have been someone else. But I do think he probably stands to gain a little more by this working succesfully, so there's some real motivation for him to try this. The alternative is he stabs, 3v1s us, and hopes he has a friend afterwards. Depends how lucky he's feeling.
Chat with TT Wrote:Twinkletoes
hey
scooter
hey
got my email I take it?
Twinkletoes
just reading your reply now
scooter
ok cool
Twinkletoes
seems promising
scooter
glad to hear it!
Twinkletoes
I was hoping you would let me know what you wanted for the BLA thing, as I didn't want to guess
and you have, so that helps
scooter
yeah I figured why dance around it or keep it vague
Twinkletoes
I'm not averse to disbanding the fleet at some point
scooter
it's hard to pin down an exact time when it's best to do that right this minute
I mostly just mean at a sensible time
Twinkletoes
yeah
the centre split isn't too bad either
scooter
I really wasn't trying to play hardball there, to me that's just realistic view of how things will shake out if this is really going to work
Twinkletoes
yeah its pretty fair
the issue we have is Italy
scooter
you mean in terms of whether italy participates?
Twinkletoes
yes, and if it doesn't, it can't be supporting AH
scooter
right. I wish Italy would just sail west
unfortunately I haven't really gotten anywhere with MJW so far
Twinkletoes
me neither
only email was asking if we had an alliance
scooter
I wasn't sure if that was an indication of him ignoring me because he's made other deals already or he's just not been all that active
gotcha
Twinkletoes
and if we get him onside, he wants 2 centres
scooter
for me, if we commit to something concrete together, italy is just next on my target list after austria gets finished off
Twinkletoes
indeed
though I will have to keep an eye on my north
England is pretty demanding
scooter
right. well I imagine scandanavia would be your next target. and/or germany, depending on how the wind is blowing in EFG
Twinkletoes
and I struggle to trust Mattimeo
scooter
yeah, dtay's reply to the one message I sent him was pretty stern
Twinkletoes
if Matt causes trouble for me in Sweden, I may have issues
scooter
has he threatened your ownership of sweden?
Twinkletoes
not yet, but given how confident England was on Norway, I reckon he'll go for me
thinking I'll be distracted in the South or on Austria
scooter
I don't really have a feel at all for how EFG is shaping up. just pleasantries so far
anyway, for how to deal with italy - I think if we can get him to damage austria, I'm happy to give him a couple centers, then we just take them back once austria is gone. anything to keep them from fully cooperating and stagnating things
Twinkletoes
agreed
though there will be only so much damage I can do as you will hold Tri
scooter
right. well I figure in the longer term, italy is my own problem much like germany and/or england is mostly yours. meaning we can help each other a little, but geography constrains that a little
but if we're successful, we should have a center advantage quickly
Twinkletoes
yeah
scooter
also, whatever I say to italy will change after S1901 if you're in black sea and I'm not
I think that's our best shot of managing italy
Twinkletoes
yeah
The BLA sea move is me and austria coming for you so you need Italy to distract AH
scooter
right. and if italy doesn't do that and I collapse, A and you get way too big too fast, and that scares italy.
Twinkletoes
yeah
especially as AH's build centres are much closer to him than yours would be
scooter
so perhaps closer to the deadline we can convince italy that we'd like to divide up AH with italy. he'll probably balk. then he'll see S1901 moves, I'll send bitter messages about you, wanting revenge, etc. and hopefully that'll convince him it's in his best interests to hit austria
right
Twinkletoes
sounds good to me
scooter
Ok. Well I'll tell you what. I've gotta head home from work now
I'm going to post this chat in my thread so gaspar can take a look and give any thoughts on the plan. You can think it over too. and if we're still on board with what's suggested, we aim to officialize it by email tomorrow?that would still give us about 24 hours before moves need to be sent in
Twinkletoes
okay - sounds good to me
cya then
scooter
okay great, thanks for chatting!
Gaspar, thoughts? My thought is basically I want to go ahead with this. If he burns us, he burns us, that's the game. If it's not him to burn us, it may have been someone else. But I do think he probably stands to gain a little more by this working succesfully, so there's some real motivation for him to try this. The alternative is he stabs, 3v1s us, and hopes he has a friend afterwards. Depends how lucky he's feeling.