So mack sniped the Toledo as expected and apparently razed suttree's newly founded last city as well (no WW for us, good job mack). 
Let's provide our final stats with suttree:
Captured cities: 1
Razed cities: 1
Killed units: 60+
Lost units: 14
My estimate of mackoti's stats (excluding his early conflict):
Captured (including peace deal gifts) cities: 5
Razed cities: 1
Killed units: 5-8 (we know that he got 2 cities for free, for Maximin+Toledo he had to kill 2-3 archers total, I doubt suttree's last city had more than 1 defender and the southern city he took before the peace deal probably had 2-4 defenders)
Lost units: 0-1 (maybe he lost something in the south, northern archers probably weren't too difficult to kill with grenadiers)
Nuff said.
What a farce this whole drama was for us 
We chatted with Harry yesterday and wondered if taking Madrid was worth it. Hammer-wise obviously not, but:
- we got the pleasure of killing suttree's stack..
- Now those 50+ units are away from our border and if we can get enforced peace with mack we can have fun with new adventures in the west..
Downside is that now our border is even longer with mack, but because mack always got OB with suttree when he wanted ("amazingly" also after his latest attack) he could have attacked via his land anyways and now the scenario where mack attacks us in the west and suttree happily piles on us in the east is gone.
Let's provide our final stats with suttree:
Captured cities: 1
Razed cities: 1
Killed units: 60+
Lost units: 14
My estimate of mackoti's stats (excluding his early conflict):
Captured (including peace deal gifts) cities: 5
Razed cities: 1
Killed units: 5-8 (we know that he got 2 cities for free, for Maximin+Toledo he had to kill 2-3 archers total, I doubt suttree's last city had more than 1 defender and the southern city he took before the peace deal probably had 2-4 defenders)
Lost units: 0-1 (maybe he lost something in the south, northern archers probably weren't too difficult to kill with grenadiers)
Nuff said.
What a farce this whole drama was for us We chatted with Harry yesterday and wondered if taking Madrid was worth it. Hammer-wise obviously not, but:
- we got the pleasure of killing suttree's stack..
- Now those 50+ units are away from our border and if we can get enforced peace with mack we can have fun with new adventures in the west..
Downside is that now our border is even longer with mack, but because mack always got OB with suttree when he wanted ("amazingly" also after his latest attack) he could have attacked via his land anyways and now the scenario where mack attacks us in the west and suttree happily piles on us in the east is gone.