Thinking about future cities again:
In your sandbox you settled 1b, which gets the fish just as soon as it pops borders, but the first culture building we want there is perhaps a library (or a monument?) so that's a way in the future. I prefer 1a partly for the cow sharing, bur more because it lets us cram more cities in on the coast, which is pretty good for a FIN civ (we can grow on the coast without much worker support while 2/0/3 is a good tile and later in the game recruit specialists in these cites.)
In the west the choice between 2 and 3 is tricky - 2 gets us the coastal corn city and is perhaps a stepping stone to marble island, but it's not on a hill and doesn't get a decent food tile without a border pop (barracks?) Meanwhile 3 has two food and is on a hill, but takes an extra turn to settle. 2a is only an option if we get 3 - sharing the pig and making border logistics easier. Of course Azza has a say in which we get as well, and you're right that it could piss him off.
If we decide that settling up on Azza is a bad idea or we get beaten then I think 4 and 5 are our next pair of cities. 4 doesn't get any new food resources, but it can quickly grow on the floodplain and pig (while the capital builds a settler) and then work five cottages for the capital. We're a little slow on cottage development, so the sooner that can happen the better. 5 gets us stone and pens Azza in. I'm sure it'll have other things going for it too, but I don't know what they are just yet.
Once we've settled city 5 then we can build Moai in M, although with stone only giving us 50% extra on the build the three forests only yield 135 hammers (after borders pop), so it's going to take ages and we shouldn't be prioritising it too hard.
So in a world without Azza I'd settle
- 3 then 2a then 5 then 4 then 1a
Given that Azza exists and we don't want to spend much on military just yet it might be safer to go:
- 1a then 3 then 5 then 4 then 2a
Note I think 4 should be approx our 9th city because we'll have enough cottages to justify it by then. Also if we have any island possibilities they probably fit somewhere in this list.
Hope the work isn't getting you down
perhaps I'm not the more sleep-deprived one after all!
In your sandbox you settled 1b, which gets the fish just as soon as it pops borders, but the first culture building we want there is perhaps a library (or a monument?) so that's a way in the future. I prefer 1a partly for the cow sharing, bur more because it lets us cram more cities in on the coast, which is pretty good for a FIN civ (we can grow on the coast without much worker support while 2/0/3 is a good tile and later in the game recruit specialists in these cites.)
In the west the choice between 2 and 3 is tricky - 2 gets us the coastal corn city and is perhaps a stepping stone to marble island, but it's not on a hill and doesn't get a decent food tile without a border pop (barracks?) Meanwhile 3 has two food and is on a hill, but takes an extra turn to settle. 2a is only an option if we get 3 - sharing the pig and making border logistics easier. Of course Azza has a say in which we get as well, and you're right that it could piss him off.
If we decide that settling up on Azza is a bad idea or we get beaten then I think 4 and 5 are our next pair of cities. 4 doesn't get any new food resources, but it can quickly grow on the floodplain and pig (while the capital builds a settler) and then work five cottages for the capital. We're a little slow on cottage development, so the sooner that can happen the better. 5 gets us stone and pens Azza in. I'm sure it'll have other things going for it too, but I don't know what they are just yet.
Once we've settled city 5 then we can build Moai in M, although with stone only giving us 50% extra on the build the three forests only yield 135 hammers (after borders pop), so it's going to take ages and we shouldn't be prioritising it too hard.
So in a world without Azza I'd settle
- 3 then 2a then 5 then 4 then 1a
Given that Azza exists and we don't want to spend much on military just yet it might be safer to go:
- 1a then 3 then 5 then 4 then 2a
Note I think 4 should be approx our 9th city because we'll have enough cottages to justify it by then. Also if we have any island possibilities they probably fit somewhere in this list.
Hope the work isn't getting you down
perhaps I'm not the more sleep-deprived one after all!
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