What's your estimation here, will we win this if we just let dtay eat pindicator in peace and we focus elsewhere? 
Civ meta typically sucks and dogpiles don't happen because nobody wants to be the one pulling the trigger first. And I don't like that.
I think we could just openly announce the world that dtay is our enemy and I think there is value in burning one city even if the costs are high and there are no real gains to be achieved. Just to show others that this is not a complete fake war and give dogpile a chance.
Let's just start a naval fight, force dtay to stuff more units into his cities and build ships? That already helps pindi and krovice a bit.
Personally I have absolutely no interest for playing 2nd place. We might as well go home. And I have no problem with "gifting" BGN the win if that will be the outcome of that.
At this point we still have cards in our hands, and I really feel that we should use them. Let's sacrifice ourselves if that's what it means and enjoy the war. I mean, it's kind of our responsibility, who else is going to do something interesting here and keep the game alive?
If you have a solid plan how to win this without stopping dtay, I'm completely fine with that. However, I strongly approve an approach where we take a major risk, start putting pressure on dtay, start a dance and see how geopolitical situation develops.
Need to run, these were my quick reactions. Sorry for being so absent.
Civ meta typically sucks and dogpiles don't happen because nobody wants to be the one pulling the trigger first. And I don't like that.
I think we could just openly announce the world that dtay is our enemy and I think there is value in burning one city even if the costs are high and there are no real gains to be achieved. Just to show others that this is not a complete fake war and give dogpile a chance.
Let's just start a naval fight, force dtay to stuff more units into his cities and build ships? That already helps pindi and krovice a bit.
Personally I have absolutely no interest for playing 2nd place. We might as well go home. And I have no problem with "gifting" BGN the win if that will be the outcome of that.
At this point we still have cards in our hands, and I really feel that we should use them. Let's sacrifice ourselves if that's what it means and enjoy the war. I mean, it's kind of our responsibility, who else is going to do something interesting here and keep the game alive?
If you have a solid plan how to win this without stopping dtay, I'm completely fine with that. However, I strongly approve an approach where we take a major risk, start putting pressure on dtay, start a dance and see how geopolitical situation develops.
Need to run, these were my quick reactions. Sorry for being so absent.