Does pilgrimage work on city states BTW?
I think I'm in favor of founding the two cities, believe that if we were going to do a good 2city NC start we should have skipped archery/wheel for writing. (no criticism, none of us were thinking that far ahead). Also assuming we move red dot (post 75) 1W to the lakeshore, both cities 3/4 have some 2nd ring resources that might be swiped by city states...I don't have a lot of experience with how fast CS borders grow but would prefer not to risk it. Also we may have the chance to ally Ragusa, so having a 3rd city out for the +1 food would be nice.
@Thawk - there is merit to having the tradition finisher before or right after founding 3/4. But prebuilding the roads is a terrible idea, you pay maintenance earlier and the city connection trade is 1g/pop, so it doesn't balance until the new city grows to 3 or 4...exact opposite of civ4 but thems the math.
I'm curious to run the numbers on options for next caravan (food to new city vs. TR to monaco moving Trad finisher forward) but that decision is 10t away so will do it after Yuris plays
One other reason for trying to ally Monaco - yes the policy costs always escalate, but might move a couple policies forward before founding cities pushes costs up.
(Although with legalism, founding cities 3/4 increases the culture generation to match as well, hmmm...probably balances as long as you don't found a city when you are at 160/190 culture for the next policy and such)
EDIT from Thawks: Devotion can't go library next unless we put Writing before Calendar. Which may make perfect sense if the horses get picked. Almost in favor of playing just 1t to see which way it goes.
I think I'm in favor of founding the two cities, believe that if we were going to do a good 2city NC start we should have skipped archery/wheel for writing. (no criticism, none of us were thinking that far ahead). Also assuming we move red dot (post 75) 1W to the lakeshore, both cities 3/4 have some 2nd ring resources that might be swiped by city states...I don't have a lot of experience with how fast CS borders grow but would prefer not to risk it. Also we may have the chance to ally Ragusa, so having a 3rd city out for the +1 food would be nice.
@Thawk - there is merit to having the tradition finisher before or right after founding 3/4. But prebuilding the roads is a terrible idea, you pay maintenance earlier and the city connection trade is 1g/pop, so it doesn't balance until the new city grows to 3 or 4...exact opposite of civ4 but thems the math.
I'm curious to run the numbers on options for next caravan (food to new city vs. TR to monaco moving Trad finisher forward) but that decision is 10t away so will do it after Yuris plays
One other reason for trying to ally Monaco - yes the policy costs always escalate, but might move a couple policies forward before founding cities pushes costs up.
(Although with legalism, founding cities 3/4 increases the culture generation to match as well, hmmm...probably balances as long as you don't found a city when you are at 160/190 culture for the next policy and such)
EDIT from Thawks: Devotion can't go library next unless we put Writing before Calendar. Which may make perfect sense if the horses get picked. Almost in favor of playing just 1t to see which way it goes.