meatbalz Wrote:1) we should not agree to the information exchange straight-up. our information-gathering ability is approx. 2x theirs and will remain that way for some time. i'd like to make this point clear to them in a friendly way
I don't think there's a lot of harm in mentioning we met team X or Y to them.
meatbalz Wrote:i'd be very interested in hearing suggestions on what we can ask in return to make the agreement a fair one. i'm leaning towards just asking them what they think would be fair.
I'm not sure what you could ask them in return at this stage of the game
meatbalz Wrote:2) we should agree to a NAP
but it's too early. i WOULD like a NAP with them, as long as (and this is the key point) a settling plan is built in. +
I wouldn't mention a settler plan just yet, as it is too early start drawing lines between or teams (we don't even know where they are). We can start discussing an NAP as soon as we explore a bit more and we've started feeling each other out on where we'd like to settle.
meatbalz Wrote:there's a simple reason for this - they are CRE as well as EXP.
I think they're playing with Zara, so that would make it CRE and ORG
meatbalz Wrote:a settling race with them is a losing proposition for us. if we're able to come to an agreement we're happy with regarding settling, with clear locations for city sites, then it's in our favour to lock it up.
We should be able to outgrow them city/worker wise. So it would be in THEIR interest...

meatbalz Wrote:for now it's too early though - we need to get a better feel for the lay of the land. a possible path this could go down is, we agree with them that they scout the area for us, providing us with edited screenshots showing the area but hiding their capital (allowed under the game rules). this could be the counterweight in the negotiations over point 1) above.
I think we need to wait before we start exchanging screenshots. Like you said, we can cover a lot more ground than they can, especially once our warrior starts exploring as well. And they haven't proposed it yet, so I'd say mums the word...

meatbalz Wrote:basically, i think it IS in our interests to get a NAP done with them as soon as we have a clear idea of what the land around us looks like. the NAP must go hand-in-hand with a settling agreement though.
That will be part of the discussion. We'll see how things go diplomatically. Don't forget, this is only 1 of 16 other teams.
We should turn our disadvantage (starting with a hunter, crappy starting techs) into an advantage. As long as Hernan is alive we'll be able to scout the area much more extensively than the opposing teams (especially if they went worker first) and we should use this valuable information to the greater glory of the Principality!
