We had a chat about how to approach sabotaging TBS.
Weldyn is ~15 tuns away (pic from t253), it'll get it's culture from towns running at 100% multiplied by buildings and +120 from building culture on top of what you can see here. It needs 26000 more points and makes 1600 cpt.
Elen is at 18 turns (pic from t255), it's culture is from artists multiplied by buildings. It needs 17500 culture and makes 1000 cpt.
and we're not sure when BC will pop, but it's probably 20 turns (pic from t252). Its going to get most of its culture from bombs, with the balance from artists multiplied by buildings. It needs either 11000 (or maybe 7000) culture and makes 500 cpt.
So which one does destroying cathedrals (or other buildings) or poisoning water hurt most? We decided BC was out of the running as most of its culture is coming from artist bombs.
So this is a rough estimate of times if we sabotage cathedrals in Weldyn and Elsenfar. Else comes out on top.
The next question is do we burn what we can ASAP or wait for the discount? It looks like delay comes out ahead here, but that doesn't take into account the number of spies that get caught waiting for that discount. And since we can start running 100% espionage on t263 spies will probably be our limiting factor...
The final question is do we go for Cathedrals or starvation first? If we put him into starvation he might as well run every citizen as an artist, meaning instead of 12 artists he'd have 23 (then one less each turn). If poison his water at our first opportunity and don't hit the cathedrals then Else pops on t270, so it looks like destroying cathedrals and other culture buildings first is better value for us. Also burning the Eiffel tower city would be very nice.
TBS can rush-buy the cathedrals again, but if we destroy the temple too then he needs to rebuild that first and we can keep destroying them cost-effectively. Also the effect of the building doesn't kick in on the turn it's built so we can just keep knocking them down if we have enough spies.
Now to build more spies...
Weldyn is ~15 tuns away (pic from t253), it'll get it's culture from towns running at 100% multiplied by buildings and +120 from building culture on top of what you can see here. It needs 26000 more points and makes 1600 cpt.
Elen is at 18 turns (pic from t255), it's culture is from artists multiplied by buildings. It needs 17500 culture and makes 1000 cpt.
and we're not sure when BC will pop, but it's probably 20 turns (pic from t252). Its going to get most of its culture from bombs, with the balance from artists multiplied by buildings. It needs either 11000 (or maybe 7000) culture and makes 500 cpt.
So which one does destroying cathedrals (or other buildings) or poisoning water hurt most? We decided BC was out of the running as most of its culture is coming from artist bombs.
So this is a rough estimate of times if we sabotage cathedrals in Weldyn and Elsenfar. Else comes out on top.
The next question is do we burn what we can ASAP or wait for the discount? It looks like delay comes out ahead here, but that doesn't take into account the number of spies that get caught waiting for that discount. And since we can start running 100% espionage on t263 spies will probably be our limiting factor...
The final question is do we go for Cathedrals or starvation first? If we put him into starvation he might as well run every citizen as an artist, meaning instead of 12 artists he'd have 23 (then one less each turn). If poison his water at our first opportunity and don't hit the cathedrals then Else pops on t270, so it looks like destroying cathedrals and other culture buildings first is better value for us. Also burning the Eiffel tower city would be very nice.
TBS can rush-buy the cathedrals again, but if we destroy the temple too then he needs to rebuild that first and we can keep destroying them cost-effectively. Also the effect of the building doesn't kick in on the turn it's built so we can just keep knocking them down if we have enough spies.
Now to build more spies...
Completed: RB Demogame - Gillette, PBEM46, Pitboss 13, Pitboss 18, Pitboss 30, Pitboss 31, Pitboss 38, Pitboss 42, Pitboss 46, Pitboss 52 (Pindicator's game), Pitboss 57
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