Well well, a lot of information to digest...
Diplomacy:
- A4
So they are pleased weâre pleased eh? Well, that pleases meâ¦
Looking at the screenshot they sent us, it would seem that they started E of Aquiloniaâs position. Iâm glad that my educated guess they started with a river Rice proved to be correct.
Iâm not sure, but it would seem that their silver was placed on a plains forest. Not really fair Iâd say, given that ours was placed in a fetid jungle, which we wonât be able to remove until we discover sharper toolsâ¦
Meatbalz, correct me if Iâm wrong, but they sent us a screenshot without the minimap, right? Then I would suggest removing ours as well before we send our screenshot back. No need to give them all our scouting secrets. (could we also remove my âcity?â signs)
Is that a settler they have almost finished producing? Iâm confident they will settle their second city near the horses, either N or NN from their warrior (NW or N-NW from the Corn). Could we maybe ask them to confirm? We could also tell them where we plan to settle our second city.
I think another easy way to gain their trust is regarding India. I suggest we inform A4 weâve met them, and we then ask if they would mind us pointing out A4âs location to them.
- DJ
Fantastic catch on the Stonehedge MB!


Yes, they discovered BW around T15-16 (I donât have access to my C&D spreadsheet at work), so India has probably been clearing their capital of its trees since. Iâd probably have gone the Spulla way and chopped me some more workers and settlers out asap, but hey.
MB, do they even have a garrison unit? Another high risk start from this team!
Dotmap and Sandbox:
While I do agree that the Marble city would be a fantastic hammer site, Iâm a bit concerned this would leave us a bit overextended, especially if we make it our third city.
(I think it isnât a 2 hammer plant, looks like flat plains forest)
And letâs not forget that A4 might want the site for them.
Maybe we could convince them leaving the site for us, if we offer them the Gold/Sheep/FP site in return, AND we offer to trade the marble freely when they have a need for it (and weâre not using it to build Parthenon/Great Library/Mausoleum).
If we do get the site, I would propose we plant another city between city 2 and 3 (EE from the Spices, W from the peak tile), borrowing the grassland Sheep tile from city 2. If A4 would plant a city there, it would get culturally crushed from 3 sides, so weâd probably be able to get it as well.
Regarding the Sandbox, I was wondering how the city upkeep works.
I know the amount of land tiles is a factor, so Dazed, if you could add some more land tiles to get to the exact same tiles as the PB3 game, Iâd be much obliged. But I donât know if we need to take the total amount of tiles (ocean tiles included) into account as well. Iâll look into it as soon as I can.
Research:
I think itâs safe to assume that weâd get a few more teams into our tech alliance. So the tech weâre planning to use as trade material for could still change in the future.
I do hope we get the Marble site, so we can make use of the Masonry tech weâll need to research, on our way to Monotheism.
Diplomacy:
- A4
So they are pleased weâre pleased eh? Well, that pleases meâ¦

Looking at the screenshot they sent us, it would seem that they started E of Aquiloniaâs position. Iâm glad that my educated guess they started with a river Rice proved to be correct.

Iâm not sure, but it would seem that their silver was placed on a plains forest. Not really fair Iâd say, given that ours was placed in a fetid jungle, which we wonât be able to remove until we discover sharper toolsâ¦
Meatbalz, correct me if Iâm wrong, but they sent us a screenshot without the minimap, right? Then I would suggest removing ours as well before we send our screenshot back. No need to give them all our scouting secrets. (could we also remove my âcity?â signs)
Is that a settler they have almost finished producing? Iâm confident they will settle their second city near the horses, either N or NN from their warrior (NW or N-NW from the Corn). Could we maybe ask them to confirm? We could also tell them where we plan to settle our second city.
I think another easy way to gain their trust is regarding India. I suggest we inform A4 weâve met them, and we then ask if they would mind us pointing out A4âs location to them.
- DJ
Fantastic catch on the Stonehedge MB!



Yes, they discovered BW around T15-16 (I donât have access to my C&D spreadsheet at work), so India has probably been clearing their capital of its trees since. Iâd probably have gone the Spulla way and chopped me some more workers and settlers out asap, but hey.
MB, do they even have a garrison unit? Another high risk start from this team!

Dotmap and Sandbox:
While I do agree that the Marble city would be a fantastic hammer site, Iâm a bit concerned this would leave us a bit overextended, especially if we make it our third city.
(I think it isnât a 2 hammer plant, looks like flat plains forest)
And letâs not forget that A4 might want the site for them.
Maybe we could convince them leaving the site for us, if we offer them the Gold/Sheep/FP site in return, AND we offer to trade the marble freely when they have a need for it (and weâre not using it to build Parthenon/Great Library/Mausoleum).
If we do get the site, I would propose we plant another city between city 2 and 3 (EE from the Spices, W from the peak tile), borrowing the grassland Sheep tile from city 2. If A4 would plant a city there, it would get culturally crushed from 3 sides, so weâd probably be able to get it as well.
Regarding the Sandbox, I was wondering how the city upkeep works.
I know the amount of land tiles is a factor, so Dazed, if you could add some more land tiles to get to the exact same tiles as the PB3 game, Iâd be much obliged. But I donât know if we need to take the total amount of tiles (ocean tiles included) into account as well. Iâll look into it as soon as I can.
Research:
I think itâs safe to assume that weâd get a few more teams into our tech alliance. So the tech weâre planning to use as trade material for could still change in the future.
I do hope we get the Marble site, so we can make use of the Masonry tech weâll need to research, on our way to Monotheism.