Welcome back Dazed, thanks for the thoughts!
A4 has replied:
Their proposed dot-map:
![[Image: dimscountercounteroffer.jpg]](http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5012/dimscountercounteroffer.jpg)
I've sent them a short message acknowledging their proposal, and as I'm sure you guys don't mind, I added a little twist to poison their future relations with France:
A4 has replied:
Quote:Greeting mighty DIM!
Well your counter offer sure gave us something to discuss, we haven't
had this much team debate since the snake pickWe've gone through
it and whilst we can live with most of it, we're less happy with one
or two parts. Essentially we've come up with a counter-counter-offer.
As much as we would like the marble site, in the interest of common
friendship we can cede this to you in exchange for one or two minor
concessions. Our major issue with the proposal you've offered is the
city site you've made available to us, whilst much of the land is
riverside grass and it does include the spice tile, it lacks food
resources of any kind. At this stage of the game we can't accept a
city site like this. Food as you are probably well aware is power I
fear we must reject this generous offer.
We will concede the marble site in return for the use of the marble
resource whenever it is not needed by you to construct a wonder,
however we feel that since the site is essentially equidistant from
both our capitals we need some form of compensation. As mentioned we
feel the city site you have offered is not what we are looking for. We
would accept compensation either in the form of a worker at some time
in the not too distant future (we feel by turn 70 is fair, but are
happy to negotiate), or a low value tech (probably one of the
religious techs, that are pre-reqs for Monarchy) once Alphabet becomes
available (hopefully around the same time).
As a gesture of good faith I inform you we will be settling the red
site next turn on the original tile. We thank you for your advise but
feel that in the end that settling next to the horses is better for
our civilization. In ceding the original blue site, our new border
city with you will be on the tile 1E of the sheep.
It probably goes without saying that we would view this as our final
borders and would expect you not to consider any city sites further W
of the marble site, likewise we will not be looking E of our proposed
cities. We could probably make an exception if you want another city
SE of the spices in the space you offered but we won't be using, we're
not unreasonablePlease let us know if you have something in mind
here.
We've also informed team Nice Shot of your interest in meeting them
and have offered to help direct you towards each other when either of
you have units in the area. We are awaiting their response, but I'm
sure they'll be interested in meeting you too.
I hope that we're close to an agreement here, please let us know what
you think of our counter offers.
Enough Talking!
Their proposed dot-map:
![[Image: dimscountercounteroffer.jpg]](http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5012/dimscountercounteroffer.jpg)
I've sent them a short message acknowledging their proposal, and as I'm sure you guys don't mind, I added a little twist to poison their future relations with France:
Quote:To the glorious empire of A4,
Thank you for your counter-proposal. While we still need to discuss it, I'm sure we are very close to an agreement here.
I would like to take this opportunity to inform you of the somewhat odious interaction we had with the team we met most recently, Morgan of France.
His warrior appeared on our eastern border last turn and we exchanged greetings. Then a team member sent them a request for a short NAP to free our warrior for escort duty to cover our soon to be finished settler, and that's when it got bad...
France basically took this message as a showing of weakness, and started making unreasonable demands, which even included a forced settler agreement, basically ceding them pretty much all the land between our capitals (they are to our south east).
It was only after we threatened all-out-war and we sent a screenshot of our capital showing our defending warrior (still leaves a foul taste in my mouth having had to do this) that they backed down, and signed a 25-turn NAP. You can understand we didn't want to get bogged down with a warrior harassing our workers and pillaging our improvements.
Anyway, they seem to be on your way, and I just wanted to give you guys a heads up so you know what you're dealing with when you two meet.
Highest regards,
Ilios for DIM