Diplo-updates:
Inca:
Subject: Greeting
Well, they seem to have bought my BS...
England:
Subject: Settling rights
So in short: They found to Midas' SE. In return, we get dibs on the Sheep and Wine to their north. I would prefer to found 2W of the sheep tile as it would fit better in our dotmap. It would only overlap with Englands Horse tile.
They do have a point that it will be culturally cramped, and I don't think we can get a settler there any time soon. I was thinking we could accept the position in exchange for not having to add gold when we trade our HBR. I've sent them back that I'd like to wait till MB is back for our official reply.
Ottomans:
Subject: Alliance Within
I'm still thinking what to write back. I'm probably going to put India, Aztec and Egypt in the same camp: experienced players who will not necessarily stick to their friends. I will push them a bit more towards England and Carthage. I want to be ready when the backstabbing begins...
Inca:
Subject: Greeting
Quote:Hi HRE,
Sorry we didn't respond any earlier.
We're just a bit busy raging war... as you surely can imagine...
We're currenty scouting everyone as well to get into full contact.
Talk to you soon!
Nakor for JANK
Well, they seem to have bought my BS...
England:
Subject: Settling rights
Quote:To the Principality of DIM,
Our proposal is as follows:
1) We settle 2S1W of the copper tile
2) You settle 2W1N of the sheep
Animal Farm's borders are going to pop a second time on T75-76, since we're going to be putting a library in there very soon. A city 2W of the sheep will be very culturally cramped, and having a city overlapping BFCs with our 2nd city is too close. We are aware that this will lead to extra overlap with your other cities, but a city 2W of the sheep is going to gain very little in extra territory. We are quite willing to negotiate with you of course and want to see this settled in an expedient and fair way. Attached is the copper area.
Cyneheard, Haphazard1, Antisocialmunky
Lords of Avalon
Suryavaraman II of England
So in short: They found to Midas' SE. In return, we get dibs on the Sheep and Wine to their north. I would prefer to found 2W of the sheep tile as it would fit better in our dotmap. It would only overlap with Englands Horse tile.
They do have a point that it will be culturally cramped, and I don't think we can get a settler there any time soon. I was thinking we could accept the position in exchange for not having to add gold when we trade our HBR. I've sent them back that I'd like to wait till MB is back for our official reply.
Ottomans:
Subject: Alliance Within
Quote:Hi DIM
I'm starting to feel the same way as you guys are about the others in
AWTA (our mini alliance). Not that they are bad or anything, but we
just haven't talked to them enough to trust them. For instance, since
we met on T8, we've managed to negotiate some deals including our
border agreement, tech trades and our 'entity' (which is why we are
sharing this with you).
However we haven't really done much with the other members of AWTA.
Well, we are involved in Ruff's war (which is why we trust him more
than India) but apart from that, there hasn't been much communicating
between us other than greetings.
India is our main concern ATM. While they did suggest the alliance,
they haven't really shown us they are trustworthy (yet). I suspect
that both of these guys are in WHEOOHRN mode but still, they haven't
talked enough for us to trust them.
IMO the solution one of us to bring it up and then chat with them some
more. What are your thoughts on this?
Also, we have seen from Krill that France have apparently been allowed
in the alliance. Since you are their only contact, can you explain
that? We were under the impression that you disliked them due to the
demands they made with you.
I'm still thinking what to write back. I'm probably going to put India, Aztec and Egypt in the same camp: experienced players who will not necessarily stick to their friends. I will push them a bit more towards England and Carthage. I want to be ready when the backstabbing begins...