So it would seem we are going to be left out when post-Cartel times arrive.
Krill seems to have organised something together with Carthage, with the former possibly supplying gold to the latter. England are in with them as well, which would suck because we get along pretty well, and we share a long border. We have an autorenewing NAP till T100 with a 10-turn cooldown, but that's not as reassuring as a formal alliance.
That and Cyneheard must have been feeding info to Krill about our research etc...
We had a discussion, where I told Cynehead we'd like both Ottomans and England in the alliance, whereupon he replied it would be hard, since they want to continue working with Carthage (also supplying gold I guess)
He also mentioned the southern nations of Mali and Babylon, another pair of nations pretty much joined at the hip.
So:
New Krill Tech Cartel:
Core:
- Egypt
- Carthage
- England
- Mali
- Babylon
Now nothing of this is confirmed yet, but I get the feeling this is the core.
Possible joiners:
- Maya
- Byz
- Portugal
Maya and Byz I'm not sure. On the one hand, Maya got Construction from Carthage, on the other, they seem pretty close to both India and Byz, who didn't.
For the moment I think I'll put Maya in the Krill column.
Portugal is another matter. They haven't got real friends, and have been pretty busy keeping Rome busy.
They suddenly asked for an NAP a couple of days ago, so I was going to put them in the Krill column as well. (NAP to cover their flank as soon as the new alliance is revealed).
But today all of a sudden they need to speak urgently to both Ottomans and HRE. I can't join the chat because I'm at work, but Warriorknight from Ottomans will talk to Mukha and see what's up.
So that's a possible 8 member alliance. With France soon to be dead, that would leave only 6 teams to oppose them. So let's hope not all of the previously mentioned teams join Krill, because it would include all the remaining Financial teams.
La resistance:
former AWA:
- Ottomans
- India
- Aztec
- DIM/HRE
All in all not very comforting. India and Ottomans have both been expanding pretty much, and will not gain access to critical techs in a while (India get Aesthetics in a few turns, yay).
And I have no idea what Ruff is up to. He's still stuck at 2 cities, while Inca, who admittedly are Imperialistic, have already expanded to 5. Maybe he's building Pyramids with the Marble I saw around his second city...
The stone agers
- Rome
- Inca
These guys have been seriously hampered by early warfare, and are technologically backward and diplomatically isolated. Even so, if the alliance around Krill takes shape as I predicted, we'll have no choice but to kick them into shape and send their forces to the front.
Krill seems to have organised something together with Carthage, with the former possibly supplying gold to the latter. England are in with them as well, which would suck because we get along pretty well, and we share a long border. We have an autorenewing NAP till T100 with a 10-turn cooldown, but that's not as reassuring as a formal alliance.
That and Cyneheard must have been feeding info to Krill about our research etc...
We had a discussion, where I told Cynehead we'd like both Ottomans and England in the alliance, whereupon he replied it would be hard, since they want to continue working with Carthage (also supplying gold I guess)
He also mentioned the southern nations of Mali and Babylon, another pair of nations pretty much joined at the hip.
So:
New Krill Tech Cartel:
Core:
- Egypt
- Carthage
- England
- Mali
- Babylon
Now nothing of this is confirmed yet, but I get the feeling this is the core.
Possible joiners:
- Maya
- Byz
- Portugal
Maya and Byz I'm not sure. On the one hand, Maya got Construction from Carthage, on the other, they seem pretty close to both India and Byz, who didn't.
For the moment I think I'll put Maya in the Krill column.
Portugal is another matter. They haven't got real friends, and have been pretty busy keeping Rome busy.
They suddenly asked for an NAP a couple of days ago, so I was going to put them in the Krill column as well. (NAP to cover their flank as soon as the new alliance is revealed).
But today all of a sudden they need to speak urgently to both Ottomans and HRE. I can't join the chat because I'm at work, but Warriorknight from Ottomans will talk to Mukha and see what's up.
So that's a possible 8 member alliance. With France soon to be dead, that would leave only 6 teams to oppose them. So let's hope not all of the previously mentioned teams join Krill, because it would include all the remaining Financial teams.
La resistance:
former AWA:
- Ottomans
- India
- Aztec
- DIM/HRE
All in all not very comforting. India and Ottomans have both been expanding pretty much, and will not gain access to critical techs in a while (India get Aesthetics in a few turns, yay).
And I have no idea what Ruff is up to. He's still stuck at 2 cities, while Inca, who admittedly are Imperialistic, have already expanded to 5. Maybe he's building Pyramids with the Marble I saw around his second city...
The stone agers
- Rome
- Inca
These guys have been seriously hampered by early warfare, and are technologically backward and diplomatically isolated. Even so, if the alliance around Krill takes shape as I predicted, we'll have no choice but to kick them into shape and send their forces to the front.