(SPOILERS) SuperDEATH Kills the competition

[superdeath]

Still 2nd in GNP, with no 2nd city yet. Not that GNP matters all that much in the early game, gotta push food..

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If this...

The worker will move next turn to the copper mine, and the following turn will be able to mine it as the settler is on the copper mine now, and will settle in two turns ( damn forest ).

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Super good chops-

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...then why not settle city 2 with the cows first ring? You would settle the city on the same turn. If you settle SE and have both food first ring you only lose one forest for chopping but the city is certain to grow much faster. If you just want the cows first ring then settling S of your current target puts 8 chops in the city's BFC.

Or, taking this from the other side, what is your explanation for settling on the forest to get the copper first ring? I double-checked your traits (FIN/IND) before posting. You aren't going to have an easy time popping borders so what's the plan here?

yeah... i completely overlooked all of that, as i was so pumped to have microed the worker to be able to start the copper mine the same turn as the founding.. I took a good 10min thinking it over and couldnt understand why i would waste a forest like that vs going one south. Soo.. yeah.