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Love a good tier list! Did you account for the cities Krovice got from Whosit in their peacetime gains? Being CRE probably helped. As did being Krovice.
Right now I feel our main threats are dtay making peace with Krovice or BGN taking advantage of our under-defended western cities, the former would be reasonably easy to deal with, the latter might mean we need peace with dtay, a lot of whipping and some threats to BGNs homeland with frigates and galleons. Dreylin could burn a couple of our northern cities but I think he's sensible enough to know that would be suicide. If none of that happens I feel good about our position vs BGN with FIN and our 2-man golden age in hand. Or did he use the Taj to preserve his too?
That musket will be a rifle, we should start some building in the west too in case of Cossacks. What is the best defense strategy vs Cossacks?
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(This post was last modified: January 4th, 2015, 17:04 by Old Harry.)
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Answering my own question - Rifles (and collateral) are the best defence against Cossacks  .
Your estimates of Constitution EOT179, Democracy EOT181/182 and Corporation EOT183 sound reasonable - I was being a bit lazy and was going to check with Oxford in place  . We need to put two turns into a Grenadier in Zucchini (t177 and 178), then could put a turn (t179) into a Musket there before whipping the Cuir t180, the Grocer t181 and starting the SoL t182 and then whipping the Gren and Musket at intervals. (If we can't squeeze out Democracy t181 then we put two turns into the Musket instead of one.)
BGN got rifling this turn, I forgot to check on how much cash he had, but average global rival power went down so I don't think he mass-upgraded Cossacks. What would it take from him to make you want to get RP-Rifling before Corporation?
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(January 4th, 2015, 17:00)Old Harry Wrote: Answering my own question - Rifles (and collateral) are the best defence against Cossacks .
I think you'll find that a better* defense against Cossacks is to take the army beating on Azza and perform a preemptive strike 
* For a lurker-centric definition of 'better'
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The four injured Cuirassiers, five Catapults and one Musket? Nice try general Custer.
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(January 4th, 2015, 17:00)Old Harry Wrote: What would it take from him to make you want to get RP-Rifling before Corporation?
Well I doubt that BGN really would attack us. His position is good enough so that he does not necessirarily need to risk things with us and he can just get keep growing at the cost of somebody else. Aaaand I'm trusting your sentry net 
I'm mostly thinking RP-Rifling for our eastern needs. As I said cleverly in our chat, SoL is worth a couple of cities, but couple of cities is also worth a couple of cities..  Cavs+Rifles would make taking and holding dtay's western holdings a real thing if Krovice keeps pushing. For defensive purpouses we can always get RP+Rifling fast enough so that everyone should understand that holding cities on our continent is a long shot. For your cossack question rifles are of course the solution, but pikes+muskets can do a decent job of slowing them down if we would need to deal with those in the near future.
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(January 4th, 2015, 18:05)Old Harry Wrote: The four injured Cuirassiers, five Catapults and one Musket? Nice try general Custer.
Hey, there is a HA as well and one of those cuirs is healthy! Try facts next time, before you drive off our lonely lurkers!
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(January 4th, 2015, 18:05)Old Harry Wrote: Nice try general Custer.
Surely Montfort is a better example?
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Lurkers demand more blood! You need the GG points from somewhere!
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I like that ranking but I predicted 70 pages ago that you guys are going to win and I never wrong, other players should just quit at this point
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(January 3rd, 2015, 13:45)Fintourist Wrote: These guys can maybe still dream of a win, but they require both great successes in their own play and the top 5 civs to cripple themselves. (we are doing our best to accommodate that..) 
Good stuff, love the team infection and the blatant lurker pandering with lots of blood and rankings! Did you ever get around to reading ScooPin's pb13 thread? Lots of good per rankings, and incidentally charted your own rise from "who dat" to "badass"
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