So, Which Boring Leader And Civ Do We Pick?

[Shoot the Moon]

Not saying it's better than those traits, just that Darius + inca is better than Pacal + whatever civ.

I disagree with that. Pacal + Egypt, Ottomans, or Byz >>> Darius + Inca. Traits to me are much more important than the civ. Darius in my mind is so much more of a drop off from Pacal than is one of those three from Inca.

[oledavy]

Well, the Khmer pick came out of left field. Things just got interesting

[xanes]

Well, the Khmer pick came out of left field. Things just got interesting

Indeed, I am curious once again, is the Baray actually useful or is it just to build the über-War-Elepahnt

[pindicator]

It's the WEs

The baray is decent - adding growth to a city is never a bad thing. But spending 100 hammers for 1 fpt? That is going to take a while to pay back the investment.

[Shoot the Moon]

Yeah, WEs though are scary things.

[luddite]

Haha, definitely did not see that coming

[WarriorKnight]

Khmer huh? Shame that we can't benefit from a strange pick but oh well.

As for us I'd favor:

HC
Bismarck (EXP Inca is not automatically worse then FIN)
Mansa/Darius

Dunno about the 3rd pick yet, but since Willem will likely be taken by another team we probably don't have to worry about it.

[waterbat]

It's the WEs

The baray is decent - adding growth to a city is never a bad thing. But spending 100 hammers for 1 fpt? That is going to take a while to pay back the investment.

do you think then that pairing EXP with this is bad? if you are going to build barays for +2 health, seems having health as part of your trait bonus is redundant.

[waterbat]

haha - little snippet with catwalk

catwalk: Alright, done campaigning for my snake pick
Which will never be considered
me: oh in the demo game?
catwalk: Yes
Looks like we will be ready to post it shortly
Sent at 10:19 AM on Wednesday
me: what was your suggestion?
the strength of the double pick isn't trivial
catwalk: Can't reveal that, might give away info about our starting position
And I know what a pesky little spy you can be
me: haha hadn't thought of that
catwalk: Sure you hadn't....

ARRRR!

[waterbat]

Khmer huh? Shame that we can't benefit from a strange pick but oh well.

As for us I'd favor:

HC
Bismarck (EXP Inca is not automatically worse then FIN)
Mansa/Darius

Dunno about the 3rd pick yet, but since Willem will likely be taken by another team we probably don't have to worry about it.

Good call WK.

With only 1 leader (paired with Khmer) to go, looks like we will have our pick.

EDIT: Argh! should have checked the pick thread first. Looks like HC has been picked.

We can begin finalizing our leader pick unless someone feels that Gilette's choice of civ would influence it.

FIN leaders left:
Mansa SPI
Darius ORG
Elizabeth PHI
Hannibal CHR
Victoria IMP
Wang Kon PRO
Ragnar AGG

other leaders mentioned:
Bismark (EXP/IND)
Sury (EXP/CRE)

I'd like to add Mehmed to consideration
Mehmed (EXP/ORG) - although I guess Darius would be favored.