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You don't look scummy for lurking (especially with everyone else doing it). You look more scummy for the delurking, actually.
Regardless, I think looking at the Serdoa voters yesterday is a decent place to start. slowcheetah and serdoa were split 2-2 with an hour to go, and obviously a close vote isn't good. on top of that, they were suspected for the same reasons, it isn't like either of them had any huge scum tells. Once Slowcheetah pulled ahead, everyone should have switched to him.
Uberfish didn't post during the final hour, so I don't know what to think about him. Brick did, though, and even said he wasn't changing his vote. To be frank, Brick's refusal to switch is the only real reason we have to lynch Serdoa today. But I'm not sure if that's a scum tell (its actually pretty clever assassin strategy if it is) or if its just a mistake.
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Bigger, you realize that you have already put now 2 players up for "they need to be lynched" with no real explanation, apart from "the voting tells to much" while subsequently stating that one of those two could very well be the assassin, yes? But you still intend to lynch first the other one. Please explain to me the logic behind. IF Brick is the assassin, it is the right play to lynch him, now. Period. There is NO fucking reason not to do it. What you are doing is bullshitting. In an interesting way, I give you that, and we all know that you are good in swaying people from the right play (yes, I remember the WW-game in which you got the village not to lynch you besides you being confirmed werewolf), but I am still stunned that all others don't even look a second time at this - yes, I know why, but, whatever.
Now, as I said, lynching me makes no sense imo. If you are right and the assassin would be certain that I am not the king already (and if he is than certainly just because of you tbh, slowcheetah played it very good), then what is the fucking reason to lynch me in the first place? The assassin wouldn't waste his kill on me anyway if it is so obvious. But you are happily wasting a lynch pointlessly.
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if I had a seer power and knew 100% who the assassin was, your logic would hold. But I don't KNOW who the assassin is, and you could very well be the assassin. And tbh, the fight you are putting up makes me think it is you even more.
Regardless, anyone alive except you could be the king - votes or even dogpiles 12 hours before lynch deadline don't mean anything. Last minute votes that close to the deadline do, though.
We're all trying to figure out the best strategy for this new game in this format, sorry if you disagree with my logic. My guess is we'll have a lot to talk about in the post game lurker thread =).
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Well, that was a nice way to say "You brought arguments forth which I can't refute, so I'm just going to ignore them".
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Maybe some others actually are not as stubborn as you.
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Bigger Wrote:1. you could be assasin. You are actually my number 2 suspect, but you have to be lynched first because:
2. You are clearly not the king. That's not your fault, but Brick and slowcheetah's play right before the lynch clearly signals you aren't the king to any half way reasonable assasin. So we have to clean up. Everyone else in the game (including me) could possibly be the king.
This post is blatantly anti-castle.
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Serdoa Wrote:Now, as I said, lynching me makes no sense imo. If you are right and the assassin would be certain that I am not the king already (and if he is than certainly just because of you tbh, slowcheetah played it very good), then what is the fucking reason to lynch me in the first place? The assassin wouldn't waste his kill on me anyway if it is so obvious. But you are happily wasting a lynch pointlessly.
The reason is because we have to lynch somebody, so it makes sense to not narrow it down any further for the assassin. First, I don't see why you can't be the assassin, your play lines up with how I'd expect you to play assassin, so I don't think you're a longshot at all. I don't think you're any really much less likely than Bigger/Brick/etc, for instance. So if we're not real confident on who the assassin is, let's not narrow it down any further for him by killing somebody he may still think is the king. Let's say Selrahc is in this game and he's a guard. He looks a little scummy, but we're not really sure. However, he also looks king-like enough that the assassin has not eliminated him as a king. In that scenario, why would we lynch Selrahc and not you, thus eliminating 2 people as possible kings and not just 1? If we assume that nobody looks definitively assassin-like, it makes sense to then vote for somebody who definitely is NOT the king so that the assassin learns nothing from the lynch. That last sentence is the key. We may learn something from the interactions today, but you being lynched means either 1) you are the assassin with quite a pool of candidates for your shot from the gallows or 2) the real assassin doesn't learn anything from your death since he presumably already had you eliminated.
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Yeah, and now go back, read uberfishs post, look who "made it obvious" that I am not the king and reassess the situation. Put down your pre-game acquired "knowledge" of how to play this and think.
Oh, and while we are at it. I don't think you know me even remotely well enough to have a clue how I would play assassin scooter.
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Serdoa, it was obvious yesterday when you nearly got lynched. You got most of these votes on you before Bigger said that. I saw uberfish's post and agree Bigger shouldn't have spelled it out like that, but I would think it was pretty clear already.
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scooter Wrote:Serdoa, it was obvious yesterday when you nearly got lynched. You got most of these votes on you before Bigger said that. I saw uberfish's post and agree Bigger shouldn't have spelled it out like that, but I would think it was pretty clear already.
You guys do realise:
1) Brick could be the assassin.
2) If Serdoa was the king (well, I agree that he isn't the king, but that's because I'm the king), SC could just have been trying to give him cover with the last minute vote because:
3) The assassin has no need to last minute vote switch in this game. Because there are no teammates to save, and he doesn't actually have to lynch the king. He gets to shoot anyway even if he's lynched.
The question here is whether Bigger was making a fishing attempt to try to get the castle to confirm/deny Serdoa's kinghood.
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uberfish Wrote:The question here is whether Bigger was making a fishing attempt to try to get the castle to confirm/deny Serdoa's kinghood.
hmm actually that makes no sense as a motivation if Serdoa looked like he was being policy lynched anyway
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