WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Serdoa]

Also I'm 99% certain I wasn't jailed due to how uberfish told me that I still have the power I tried to use.

This confuses me, it sounds as if you tried to use your one-time ability night one, but it was blocked in a way that wasn't jailed?

No. I used a different ability on N1. A post restriction. Zak would have had to tell nice things about me in every post he made. I didn't want to use my exchange-ability on N1 because of to many variables (I felt good on N2 because of novices certain villagerness). I have another post restriction ability as well. All one-time-use.

If they tried to kill me, not sure if Pind-wolf would have prepared / posted case against me. Just guessing, but maybe Mattimeo is better target first.

Serdoa, I still shot a wolf, so it couldn't be that big of a surprise... But it's done.

Yes, it should not have been. I agree that it was bad play on my part, because I simply didn't see you as villager and didn't think past that. Had I done I had realised that wolves would actually target you over novice because of your kill-ability.

That is an example how scum could have killed novice anyway but others could have watched. BTW WW10 was the first "chose your char"- game (then with cats and ducks and other animals) = the father of this one.

I never read WW10. I would not have expected such an ability at all. Had I, I would have saved my ability for later.

Don't get up in arms. Judging by my PM (and novices) uberfish gave some reason why you have this ability and yes I would like to know that reason.

I am only told that I am a mercenary captain who enjoys causing trouble. Some more points (normally I have a shitload of magic items but I don't have any here because this is a no item game). And then my abilities. Thats all.


So, I have confessed that I also play badly sometimes, showed some humility, can we change the topic now please?

[Ichabod]

And to elaborate more on the point of Scum powering through the exchange:

uberfish games are well balanced.
uberfish spent a lot of time in balancing this game
we have a villager who can call in the GM to confirm his innocence beyond doubt without any "this role looks to be too good to be true" and other nonsense.

Do you really believe we get such a villager without the scum getting enough firepower to kill said villager? What kind of balance would that be?


But your exchange does deliever another possible reason why there was no second kill.

One confirmed villager is hardly a gamechanger, Rowain. And I'd stress the hardly. It makes almost no difference at all, in a game this big.

[BRickAstley]

The more I read of Rowain's posts the worse he looks.

[Ryan]

The more I read of Rowain's posts the worse he looks.

Honestly I dont like the Pindicator votes. hes a potato but he shouldnt get voted due to having a post restriction. You guys are picking on a guy for that? thats fukn wierd. Bigger , I can handle someone like that for to much but he may be lying. He's being cocky and a dick.

[BRickAstley]

One confirmed villager is hardly a gamechanger, Rowain. And I'd stress the hardly. It makes almost no difference at all, in a game this big.

Especially since (to me at least) I think we have 2 confirmed villagers now: Meiz & Serdoa, due to the kill shenanigans. ooooh scary!

[Serdoa]

Brick, please elaborate a little bit. What do you not like on his posts? What makes you think he is scum?

[Ichabod]

I reread Lewwyn's posts. They are very centered, hardly discussing things with others, more like if he was talking to himself. Can't say if that's wolfy or not.

If it wasn't for his day 2 play right in the beggining of the day, i'd be pretty suspicious of Lewwyn. But that day he seemed to be really trying to find scum. He suspected me, Serdoa, Molach, Gazglum and went through the psots. It seemed to be legitimate scum hunting.

The problem with those posts is that more than half of Lewwyn's suspicions seem to start with "If Ichabod is a wolf....", "Considering X was voting to save Ichabod", and so on and so forth. Like if it was something already proved. But Lewwyn don't really suspect me, it seems, he didn't vote or push for me. This makes me believe he could have used the "Ichabod is wolf" as a supposition to create other targets, which is a heavy scum tell. Again, the problem is the fact that he didn't heavily suspect me while he was basing most of this cases on this condition. So, a lot of Lewwyn cases sound a bit fabricated.

Damning? Don't think so. What others think, though? There aren't much posts by lewwyn, is easy to go through them (quantity isn't a scum tell, keep in mind).

[BRickAstley]

Quick summary:

I didn't like his digs at me today, they seemed very unfounded.

His end of night posts are suspicious given who he mentions, but he STILL hasn't offered any rationale for them.

Post #1070 looks like a scum attempt to stay relevant in all conversations by posting blurbs on everyone.

Votes to help kill Gaius without even offering clear justification.


I don't think it's enough to say "Oh look he's 100% scum!", but it's more than a lot of other people and a good suspect to put some pressure on.

[Ichabod]

I reread Pindicator's posts and I fairly doubt that he's scum. There was some pretty good things on them. I won't be voting for him tonight, not unless he makes some bad wolf slips until the end is over.

[Meiz]

Ryan can you stop being so rude? That's not fun for anyone