Werewolf 7 game thread

[Mr. Nice Guy]

As for my first post, there are three players whose werewolf styles I can probably read better than the rest: Gaspar, Roland, and Rowain.

Is my memory failing me... Has Roland played a werewolf?

As far as I know, no. A better way to state myself is:
Gaspar: We played very closely in WW2, and I have since read several of his PBEMs, so I feel comfortable understanding what his "baseline" is.
Roland: We played very closely in WW2, and even IM'ed a lot. Plus, his playstyle is tough to fake as a wolf - kind of like how zak's playstyle is tough to fake.
Rowain: Little more obvious - we were wolves together, and he was my dedlurker in PBEM19. So as with Gaspar, a pretty good baseline for him.

[zakalwe]

I like what I'm seeing from MNG here. I'll be moving my vote shortly, just need to decide where.

[Lewwyn]

That's why I kept this.... Lewwyn provides a better alternate than Roland.

And did I really think Lewwyn is a good mayor choice? Of everyone in the game, then, through 24 hours I'm happiest giving Gaspar 1.1 votes.

[Meiz]

I noticed was how he pre-emptively defended against following my lead. Not sure a villager Meiz would worry about that.

It tried to be a joke related to the last game and Gaspars accusations. Honestly I was not worried about it. This is a team game and I'm not afraid to agree with someone if they make a good point.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

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I don't see much point in changing my vote away from Twinkletoes.
- Running for mayor without really committing to it (seems like a joke)
- Too serious response for uberfish's claim (no wtf - reaction)
- Scolding for quiet play a bit too early (trying to appear active and useful?)
- The plan of following post counts is really neutral and too objective way of suspecting people. Something that would come useful for a wolf.

But as we have 4 wolves, I'll try to dig up more suspicious behavior during this workday (useful day coming ahead! )

This does make sense. TT seemed to fade to the background as I was reading. Then I read your post, and a lightbulb went off. So I looked at TT's posts. And tell you what... you just summarized all 7 of his posts perfectly. So we have TT, scolding people for being quiet, making joke posts, not analyzing much... just seems a little off to me. To those of you that know him better, is this par for the course, or as suspicious as it seems? I admit that he's more of a blank for me, but this puts him in the "questionable" camp.

[Lewwyn]

Originally Posted by Meiz View Post
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I don't see much point in changing my vote away from Twinkletoes.
- Running for mayor without really committing to it (seems like a joke)
- Too serious response for uberfish's claim (no wtf - reaction)
- Scolding for quiet play a bit too early (trying to appear active and useful?)
- The plan of following post counts is really neutral and too objective way of suspecting people. Something that would come useful for a wolf.

But as we have 4 wolves, I'll try to dig up more suspicious behavior during this workday (useful day coming ahead! )

This does make sense. TT seemed to fade to the background as I was reading. Then I read your post, and a lightbulb went off. So I looked at TT's posts. And tell you what... you just summarized all 7 of his posts perfectly. So we have TT, scolding people for being quiet, making joke posts, not analyzing much... just seems a little off to me. To those of you that know him better, is this par for the course, or as suspicious as it seems? I admit that he's more of a blank for me, but this puts him in the "questionable" camp.

I also think this makes sense. I do think normal TT is more lively more risk taking, and possibly more inclined to guess rather than use post count as a measure of a wolf. I will consider TT a suspect now, though, again, I'll wait on the lynch vote.

[Sareln]

Alright, I'm satisfied with what I learned about MNG for the time being. Time to move to the next most curious cat on my list from above, Sareln.

For logic, see above.

(What? Have none of you ever had a hard time getting to sleep? Stop looking at me like that. Seriously. Stop it!)

Yay, my first vote! Oh, it's in red

Responding on the first vote instead of waiting for more to accumulate because that wastes time where those votes could be used to pressure others instead.

So first, questions that have been addressed to me so far:

- Did you really not think the whole mayor thing through?
- Why so quiet (Roland tries to excuse this a bit, I don't know why)?
- Why no comment on Uberfish's gambit?

Vis-a-vis mayor: I didn't pay very much attention to the startup thread other than to keep an eye on it as people signed up and rules were debated. As a side effect of this, I hadn't really thought all that deeply on how the value of mayor had changed based on the power-role mix. So yes, I really did not think the mayor thing through as much, and hence the rapidity with which I pulled the vote once people started writing on that point.

As to quiet, well, workday + Tropico 3 - I think it's on sale still if you're interested in that kind of game at all.

I didn't know what to make of Uberfish's gambit, so I just ignored it for the time-being. There was plenty of time left in the day to push for him if nothing slipped out later on, and focusing too much on an early target would deny the day 1 chatter we'd need to start inferring more information.

Day 1 is often a crapshoot as far as good results for the village are concerned, so I figured I should just play some defense (since I think I'm alright at it, contrariwise, I suck at accusing people), keep up on the reading, and skate on to day 2 unless someone pushes for me or something incredible comes up (I doubt we'll be seeing Baner claim/anti-claim on day1 this time no?)

At this point, I vote Gaspar for Mayor and place my lynch vote on Twinkletoes .

Vote Logic:

• I doubt we'll see anything from TT unless he's feeling some heat.
• I prefer Gaspar as mayor over Lewwyn. See WW2 and Lewwyn's ability to weave a whole-cloth tale with which to lynch Roland against all reason.

[zakalwe]

It's a little tempting to join Gaspar on Sareln, since Sareln has contributed nothing, and when he does post, it's with a display of poor logic. Problem is, that reminds me a lot of how he played in WW5, where he played a very bad villager game and got himself lynched despite being scried as innocent. IIRC, putting pressure on him did little to improve his game back then, either.

So I'm not sure how to approach him. If he's a villager, I hope he starts contributing before it's too late.

Going back to TT is certainly an option too, but I think I'll go with Erebus instead. His stance on Uberfish seems inconsistent. First he accuses me of being a wolf attempting to seize the opportunity to lynch Uberfish, then he switches straight to suspecting Uberfish instead. I don't think he's been explaining his reasoning very well.

Cross-posting with Sareln; I'll just hit submit.

[Lewwyn]

Vote Logic:

• I doubt we'll see anything from TT unless he's feeling some heat.
• I prefer Gaspar as mayor over Lewwyn. See WW2 and Lewwyn's ability to weave a whole-cloth tale with which to lynch Roland against all reason.

First, I think given the recent Meiz, MNG and myself swing towards TT. This is a safe "buddy-up" vote. Chalk one up to the suspicion meter. And just to be clear I don't think its suspicious that you find TT suspicious, its the manner in which you have pounced on this floating argument without any real addition too the argument other than we need to see him take more heat. Also, the timing feels very opportunistic.

Second, that was some of my best work! What if I promise only to use my powers for good? :neenernee

[zakalwe]

@Sareln: So you'll stay quiet unless something incredible comes up? Like a wolf deliberately outing himself, for example?