September 8th, 2011, 01:29
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zakalwe Wrote:It's a little tempting to join Gaspar on Sareln, since Sareln has contributed nothing, and when he does post, it's with a display of poor logic. Problem is, that reminds me a lot of how he played in WW5, where he played a very bad villager game and got himself lynched despite being scried as innocent. IIRC, putting pressure on him did little to improve his game back then, either.
So I'm not sure how to approach him. If he's a villager, I hope he starts contributing before it's too late.
thanks for that Zak 
For my defense, in V the seer lied to us at least once about his scries and gasper did his darndest to link us together when he was guilty as hell 
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September 8th, 2011, 01:31
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Lewwyn Wrote:First, I think given the recent Meiz, MNG and myself swing towards TT. This is a safe "buddy-up" vote. Chalk one up to the suspicion meter. And just to be clear I don't think its suspicious that you find TT suspicious, its the manner in which you have pounced on this floating argument without any real addition too the argument other than we need to see him take more heat. Also, the timing feels very opportunistic.
Second, that was some of my best work! What if I promise only to use my powers for good? :neenernee
Lewwyn, WW2 is past but I still can't shake how utterly immune to logic you were on that day. I don't want to find us in that situation again, where despite everything that's said you doggedly go on with a blatantly wrong lynch.
3/17 votes isn't pressure unless more people are starting to pile on. So I don't agree with your characterization of my vote as being simple buddy-buddy, but you're right in that it's opportunistic. I see an opportunity to build a good bit of pressure on TT and force some response, any response. I'm not Gaspar or Zak so my vote by itself isn't going to draw a response so my best move is to jump on a wagon and see where it leads.
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September 8th, 2011, 01:33
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Here comes the illogic train Sareln! TooT, TooT!
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September 8th, 2011, 01:40
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Lewwyn Wrote:Here comes the illogic train Sareln! TooT, TooT!
What a great laugh. Thank you! 
You can get a look at a t-bone by looking up the bulls ass but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
September 8th, 2011, 01:43
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Lewwyn Wrote:Here comes the illogic train Sareln! TooT, TooT!
I've seen the error of my ways and vote Lewwyn for mayor...
@Zak, I didn't know what to do about Uberfish's statement, so I shelved it. The truth would eventually out either way since I couldn't see the GM just letting the whole thing go (given it's only day 1, easiest solution if true would be to boot Uber, reroll, and restart).
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September 8th, 2011, 01:50
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(Ok, really going to bed now, I promise.)
Not a lot to see from Sareln there - I can't say I disagree with Lewwyn's analysis which is scary in and of itself (chariot rush, go!) Actually what I'm really doing right now is doubting my spidey sense because the only one of the heavy talkers who has raised my hackles at all is Roland and I think ultimately he's harmless if he is a wolf and I rather see another day out of him (no offense, Roland.)
Sareln is what he is though. He's not a good early game player, but he was outstanding late in WW2. The only thing that has me hesitate moving my vote is that I feel like its the world's easiest cover for a wolf (I suck early days, its not my fault!) and one of these days the RNG is going to pop wolf for him. When you add that to the fact that I didn't like his initial reaction to pressure I'm inclined to think there could be more to this. This is countered by Lewwyn agreeing with me, but I'll leave my vote here for now.
In other news - after pressing the Westerners, I'd like to see a bit more from the quiet/fluffy Europeans. TT for one, certainly. Jkaen, who I'd hope will at least check in. Serdoa, as well. Meiz has been a little off, too, though I wouldn't call him quiet.
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September 8th, 2011, 01:54
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Lynch:
3v: Zakalwe ( Rowain, Injera, Uberfish )
2v: Sareln ( Gaspar, Lewwyn )
2v: Erebus ( Roland, Zakalwe )
2v: Twinkletoes89 ( Meiz, Sareln )
2v: Rowain ( Serdoa, MNG )
1v: Uberfish ( Erebus )
1v: MNG ( Scooter )
1v: Injera ( Catwalk )
1v: Catwalk ( Ichabod )
Not voted (2): Jkaen, Twinkletoes89
Vote History:
If you know what I mean.
September 8th, 2011, 01:55
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Apparently my curse is to have ideas in my head and fail to express them concisely.
It was my folly in WW6, and apparently here in WW7 as well.
My first attempt was to try to find some sort of pattern in the aftermath of uberfish's antics.
I figured that uberfish was innocent as this would be a hard thing for him to recover from if he is a wolf.
So I took time to figure how a wolf would respond. Zakalwe claims that a wolf would sit back and rub his hands in glee. I disagreed, believing a wolf would know he's innocent and eventually that fact would come out before being lynched. If I were the wolf I'd try and force a vote pile on him before he could get his head above water and stabilize. One mislynch out of the way, and minimization of talks outside of the chaos.
That's why I voted Zakalwe first, because I felt him doing that. Most, apparently, disagreed with me.
And that's why I switched my vote to uberfish, because if he's innocent or guilty it would put this entire mess into perspective. I figured at least this way we'd get some use out of him :neenernee.
However, Twinkletoes reminds me of MJW in WW6. Very critical of others, but just as guilty as what they blame others of.
September 8th, 2011, 02:15
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Pretty surely innocent list:
- Lewwyn (basically the same as for Gaspar with scooter, only that if I want to punch him in the face, he is innocent)
maybe innocent list:
- zakalwe (posting like he always does, he is getting some heat from several people and that is the only reason why he is not in the "pretty surely innocent"-list, as I know that I am biased to liking him)
- Gaspar (he is posting more then I expect a wolf Gaspar to post. What makes me not sure about him is his friendliness. Same as last game but there he also had not content so it was obvious that he is a wolf. This time it seems more like he is very self-confident and therefore don't need to be harsh. And thats rather villagerish)
- Roland (too much text for a wolf to fake easily. But I know that he is a very good writer, so he might be able to fake it. Need to see some more days of him playing)
I don't have a clue list:
- Meiz (his last posts seem villagerish too me but I am not sure how a Meiz wolf would act. I think he is very good a deceiving as could be seen in the last games when he got the wolves to attack him as he made it look like he has a power role.)
- Injera (too little known, too little content)
- catwalk (I don't like most of his posts, but then I didn't like it last game and he was innocent there, so that might be a general dislike of his tone. It always seems - like someone said before already - that he has a theory and tries to force it and if that is a bad theory - and I have a feeling he has mostly bad theories - that obviously seems not very villagerish)
- Sareln (I think him not thinking about the mayor is not incriminating in itself, as I got never the feeling that he takes the game too serious. What I like btw, as this is mainly about having fun. And I'm inclined to defend him simply because I hate Lewwyns way of acting with people he feels are guilty. It is impossible to discuss with him anything as he simply ignores you and goes on with ... well, posts like that above mine)
- Erebus (he has posted like this before. Again I dislike the style but in itself I do feel it is in character and similar to how he acted when we discussed in the sign-up thread)
- MNG (no read at all)
possible wolves:
- TT (others have said enough, I am only not sure if that is not simply TT as he is)
pretty surely wolves:
- Rowain
Some more text or rather presented it more viewer-friendly
- I really think his acting against zak didn't make much sense. Imo it was more like seeing an opening and trying to use that to discredit zak and get him killed. But it didn't feel like he believed it at all.
- After some other people started to question zak as well, Rowain didn't press more. Instead he disappeared. Surely that might be timing as well, but I feel that he simply wanted to let others do the work.
- He ignored uberfishs call, or rather stated he would save the last lynch for him as winning this way would be very stale. Ok. And 4 hours later he votes him for Mayor. Even with uberfishs explanation in between that does not make much sense for me. Rowain is a good player and knows how important the mayor is this time around. And he votes someone who is very hard to read ("I am the Owl"...), started with a risky ploy on day 1 and could as much be a crazy villager as an aggressive wolf? We have much better canditates for mayor and Rowain knows that.
- He has the second most postings by now and nearly no content except for trying to stir the zakalwe-lynch and ignoring the uberfish-ploy in a way that is not villagerish imo.
Ok, enough for now. I missed some names I know. Sorry guys, simply post more then I won't miss you the next time around... maybe
September 8th, 2011, 02:18
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Oh yeah, last post was very user-friendly.... forget to close the list and can't edit, I am sorry. Here again
Some more text or rather presented it more viewer-friendly
- I really think his acting against zak didn't make much sense. Imo it was more like seeing an opening and trying to use that to discredit zak and get him killed. But it didn't feel like he believed it at all.
- After some other people started to question zak as well, Rowain didn't press more. Instead he disappeared. Surely that might be timing as well, but I feel that he simply wanted to let others do the work.
- He ignored uberfishs call, or rather stated he would save the last lynch for him as winning this way would be very stale. Ok. And 4 hours later he votes him for Mayor. Even with uberfishs explanation in between that does not make much sense for me. Rowain is a good player and knows how important the mayor is this time around. And he votes someone who is very hard to read ("I am the Owl"...), started with a risky ploy on day 1 and could as much be a crazy villager as an aggressive wolf? We have much better canditates for mayor and Rowain knows that.
- He has the second most postings by now and nearly no content except for trying to stir the zakalwe-lynch and ignoring the uberfish-ploy in a way that is not villagerish imo.
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