scooter Wrote:Yeah this. It's greatly appreciated.

Yup, thanks T-hawk.

A funny fact is that I seem to be getting more "server is too busy" messages from civfanatics than RB in the last couple of days!

Thanks T-hawk

Nice work, thanks!

T-Hawk for president!

Forgot about the monitoring for a couple days, but that just meant I had more data to look at. Thursday showed no change, Friday was pretty good with only a couple periods of downtime, but Saturday so far has had about ten occurrences already.

It doesn't seem that anything I've done with vBulletin tuning has helped things. So I'll assume it's our neighbors on the shared host causing the server load. I turned off the server load check.

(Last Friday also saw the forum behaving better, after I first tweaked things. I don't think RB has any less traffic on Fridays, do we? Either a strange coincidence or more evidence that it's others on the server.)

antisocialmunky Wrote:Also T-Hawk, can you turn off the 'similar threads' function on the bottom of the forum? That probably involves a search somewhere so it would save a bit.

Done. Did anyone use it? Seemed like a pretty lame search just for any keywords matching in the thread titles.

I also turned the forum jump menu back on. Apparently that's a very small processing cost server-side; it's just bulky in terms of HTML and bandwidth. That doesn't seem to be our constraint here.

T-hawk Wrote:Ok, I have some data. Over 24 hours, there were about ten periods when the server went into ''too busy". Each lasted exactly five minutes; I have to figure that vBulletin always waits that much time, it can't be a server process running that consistently.

I've now flipped the setting to not send no-cache headers, telling the browser to cache. You may see more need to reload pages manually when moving around. I'll continue monitoring over the next 24 hours to see if that made any difference. I gather that most vBulletin setups with any kind of load do turn that off so we've been the exception to the usual.

As for moving hosts, we'll address that when KoP returns to the discussion. I've been wanting an excuse to get and learn my way around a Linode for a while and hosting RB might be a good reason.

Damnfino what all of that means.

Bobchillingworth Wrote:Thank you T-Hawk, for being so proactive about this =)

scooter Wrote:Yeah this. It's greatly appreciated.

Ichabod Wrote:Yup, thanks T-hawk.

A funny fact is that I seem to be getting more "server is too busy" messages from civfanatics than RB in the last couple of days!

Krill Wrote:Thanks T-hawk

Gustaran Wrote:Nice work, thanks!

+1 to all of the above. Thanks T-Hawk.

Ilios Wrote:T-Hawk for president!

T-Hawk for Prime Minister.

T-hawk Wrote:Forgot about the monitoring for a couple days, but that just meant I had more data to look at. Thursday showed no change, Friday was pretty good with only a couple periods of downtime, but Saturday so far has had about ten occurrences already.

It doesn't seem that anything I've done with vBulletin tuning has helped things. So I'll assume it's our neighbors on the shared host causing the server load. I turned off the server load check.

(Last Friday also saw the forum behaving better, after I first tweaked things. I don't think RB has any less traffic on Fridays, do we? Either a strange coincidence or more evidence that it's others on the server.)



Done. Did anyone use it? Seemed like a pretty lame search just for any keywords matching in the thread titles.

I also turned the forum jump menu back on. Apparently that's a very small processing cost server-side; it's just bulky in terms of HTML and bandwidth. That doesn't seem to be our constraint here.

Yay for the forum jump menu back.

As far as that "search" feature goes....I had no idea it even existed, NM actually using it.

If we are sitting with some big sites, they might be kicking off some sort of backup/routine maintenance script on the weekend. I for one hasn't noticed it too much. If RB is going down then its going down less noticeably (IE shroter periods)

So I mean I don't want to jinx it or anything..... but the fix seems to have eliminated the server busy problem.

We knew it would, that explicitly turned off the "too busy" message entirely.

The question was whether there'd be any other consequences, like adverse effects on our neighbors on the shared host, or if the server really was overloaded and might do things like fail to complete a database operation or become unresponsive entirely. I think I did due diligence to be fairly confident that we're okay on those concerns, though.

T-hawk Wrote:We knew it would, that explicitly turned off the "too busy" message entirely.

The question was whether there'd be any other consequences, like adverse effects on our neighbors on the shared host, or if the server really was overloaded and might do things like fail to complete a database operation or become unresponsive entirely. I think I did due diligence to be fairly confident that we're okay on those concerns, though.

I've had occasional "server unavailable" http errors after you turned this off. I do have a slightly flaky internet connection though.

Of course this doesn't change the fact that the culprit is most likely another system on the shared host, and I still prefer occasional "server unavailable" messages to being locked out 5 minutes at a time.