WW39. Escape from the Congo.

[AdrienIer]

In fact, I'll put my vote down for AdrienIer once more. His play still doesn't make much sense as a townie. But if he's scum there are many scenarios in which his passive play at the end makes sense. His too-late-on-the-face-of-it move to Bob would probably be intended to frame Bob as the next lynch.

Could you tell me how, if I was scum and had died yesterday, such a move on Bob would frame him ?

[Gazglum]

@Gazglum
My talk with Lewwyn happened at start of D1 and not near lynchtime. At the start of D1 going to a "I vote Lewwyn - Lewwyn votes me" fight is plain simply bad. It distracts villagers it enables scum to hide and not post much content. There is nothing better for scum than have a 1 vs 1 starting early and clattering up the thread.

You avoid the point Mr Wain. I don't think you should have got into some kind of 1v1 with Lewwyn. I would expect you to ignore him completely, because his vote on you was meaningless. You are a scumbo because you instead loudly told the world that you were going to be the better man and ignore Lewwyn's attack, which suggests you are oversensitive to it in the first place. Why would Lewwyn joke voting you give you an urge to vote him back at all? Lewwyn's opened on me plenty of times, I consider it an honour and a privilege.

[novice]

Is the no other a scum-slip by you? You know when I'm town and get viciously attacked it was usually done by scum. Like sunrise and xenu did in 31. Your attack currently slowly drifting towards hysteria does begin to smell like that.

Of course its not a slipup, give Scum Glum some credit.

If it's not a slipup then what did you mean?

[Gazglum]

If it's not a slipup then what did you mean?

That was from my post saying why i believe Rowain to be scum. He is the 'other' scum. If there were two other scum out there, I would expect one of them to have at least commented something like, 'mmm, yes, Rowain is maybe a bit off' without risking themselves too much. You know, like Zak did.

[Gazglum]

Rereading, and I’m moving Zak up into my scum lean. It is convoluted, but it fits. He directly benefitted from killing Lewwyn and Bob, both of whom had been voting him. That’s Zak’s modus operandi in a small game, blitz the opposition. He went into an early attack on Adrien and made the (I think wrong) claim that town-Adrien hunting scum wouldn’t sound like Serial Killer Adrien hunting scum.

And I don’t like at all that Zak is now back on Adrien after saying he didn’t like his company there yesterday. Trying to get 2 lynches for the price of 1? If you thought Adrien should be saved yesterday, why go back to him today? Why was Bob the better option yesterday?

You said this today:

As you can see, I was also having some doubts about my company, so I was questioning Rowain.

But asking Rowain this:

Rowain, what are the scum points against AdrienIer, in your mind? Who are your runner-ups?

Is hardly a vicious interrogation.

I think Zak and Rowain are a plausible team. Rowain, what do you think on Zak?

Zak, why does it make sense to lynch Bob, then Adrien? If Adrien is guilty but not with Bob, how did yesterday go down? If we lynch Adrien and he’s innocent, what would you think the next step should be?

I guess my gut is telling me to play assuming that Adrian is innocent, which means I think the wolves are hiding among Rowain, Matt, Shadeun and Zak. If I'm wrong on Adrien, then this whole tower of logic comes down.

[Rowain]

You avoid the point Mr Wain. I don't think you should have got into some kind of 1v1 with Lewwyn. I would expect you to ignore him completely, because his vote on you was meaningless. You are a scumbo because you instead loudly told the world that you were going to be the better man and ignore Lewwyn's attack, which suggests you are oversensitive to it in the first place. Why would Lewwyn joke voting you give you an urge to vote him back at all? Lewwyn's opened on me plenty of times, I consider it an honour and a privilege.

Perhaps you should reread the whole sequence and don't get too fixed on the Lewwyn-part.

[Gazglum]

Perhaps you should reread the whole sequence and don't get too fixed on the Lewwyn-part.

Ok Rowain, I'll give you a short cease-fire. Who are the bad guys then?

[Gazglum]

I think you keep making some persuasive points against Rowain, Gazglum, but he also keeps defending quite well. It could just be town on town action. That's a very roundabout way to arrive at a Mattimeo vote, though.

If you didn't like your company on Adrien, and if you think that Rowain is not acting as towny as usual, why do you now say that you think me fighting him is town-on-town?

Who, specifically, made you uneasy about sticking on Adrien yesterday?

[Rowain]

Rowain, what do you think on Zak?

Rowain what is your opinion on Zak?

My first impression was a vote for him but this and this are posts I liked + Adrien bad post including a zak-vote lets me now lean town for zak.

Who are your runner-ups?

In case Adrien is lynched and turns out village I would revisit the case on you.
In case he turns out scum it becomes harder. I wouldn't think Bob as his partner.

Bear in mind that I have excluded Gaz and Shadeun for today.

[Rowain]

Ok Rowain, I'll give you a short cease-fire. Who are the bad guys then?

If Adrien is scum I would give Shadeun a pass and look at novice, Matt, Gazglum and zak

If Adrien is town I rather think Shadeun, Matt, Gazglum

I do think we would have been better served by killing Adrien yesterday (no matter what his role is).