WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

[uberfish]

Autocorrected jailor->ballot
My point is that with the jailor on his team, he knows that it wasm't interfered with (Tasunke is not going to have an item no matter what) - if Azza got the result "No Result" what possible reason is there for changing that?

Well, tasunke could have tried the defence "but one of us might be jailed and you can't prove it because the jailkeeper is dead." And Azza might have chosen to present it that way because he knew 100% that Tasunke really had no item.

[BRickAstley]

Lets see if Brick can solve this.

Brick, was it always a rule that if you cannot scan/take an item because their is no item; that you PM "no result" and nothing else?

It should be, but in PMing various people I've been inconsistent due to not thinking and not just put "no result" like I was supposed to.

[waterbat]

Serdoa: if I was scum, I couldn't pass it to novice, which I did. (Rules)

But immediately you said passing it to novice was dumb, because he was the 100% night kill target. So I thought we had the cloak. So I figured the scum would avoid killing novice for fear of being watched. In fact, noivices death pointed out tgery didn't fear the cloak - but I didn't know that when putting in the pass orders. So the fact that he was considered to be the 100% night kill was a good reason to assume he woulkdfnt be targertted.

I was trying to be kind of vague. - so scum couldn't narrow down who had the can. Istasrted getting the vibe you had it, but didn't believe that it went randomly to the only other person I considered passing it to.

[MJW (ya that one)]

And with that

Azza

Not sure to be absolutely honest, but with no one else claiming vig, Lewwyn is cleared. MJW does act like his usual self. waterbats gas-can stunt makes no sense due to what MJW posted (even though I still don't like what he did and want an explanation).

Leaves Matt, Azza, Q and uberfish. And of those four, my scum list would be

Azza
Matt
Q
uberfish

Well assuming this list is correct and there is only one wolf. The wolfs are screwed. If lewwyn gives his vig gun to a suspect we can make the suspect shoot another suspect. If he refues he is a wolf. If the wolf kills the person lewwyn tried to pass it off and still gets the gun he is still screwd because we still have 2 lyches. And now we only need 2 because the wolf killed a suspect.

This plan could backfire horrible if there a 5 wolfs but if there is only one its a sure thing.

[waterbat]

Also a side benefit of my post was to provide a
Place for scum to put an easy vote. Only mjw followed with a pressure justification.

[Mattimeo]

Serdoa: if I was scum, I couldn't pass it to novice, which I did. (Rules)

This.

Can't pass item to someone you're killing. If we believe waterbat did actually pass the bomb to novice, he *cannot* have killed him. Giving him confirmed town.

[uberfish]

Waterbat, and why was Novice the 100% night kill target exactly? Why not Serdoa? He was more confirmed than novice.

[waterbat]

Well, OK went back and forth myself several times. I felt like the only reason the wouldn't kill novice was the cloak. Also, people would follow novice if he made a good case. What I meant was everyone appeared to consider novice the 100% kill.

[uberfish]

Hmm, it's possible that Selrahc *did* watch Serdoa (hoping to see if waterbat passed him the bomb) but he saw nothing because Waterbat did pass the bomb to Novice, who died, and then Serdoa was given the bomb randomly by Brick. I suppose that could explain why Selrahc claimed to have watched Serdoa - a fairly likely target for item passes and thus risky to lie about

Anyway the evidence leans towards waterbat as innocent, and the order of my suspects is still azza > MJW > Qqqqq > mattimeo. Whoever's town in that group... you need to, at the very least, post your reads on all the non-confirmed players.

[Qgqqqqq]

Serdoa: if I was scum, I couldn't pass it to novice, which I did. (Rules)

This.

Can't pass item to someone you're killing. If we believe waterbat did actually pass the bomb to novice, he *cannot* have killed him. Giving him confirmed town.

IIRC, these were the rules BRick changed.