[spoilers] Pindicator and Regoarrarr - Bismark of Ethiopia

[regoarrarr]

Actually I canceled the superfluous incense deals a turn or two ago.

I think I'll just propose straight up OB with Scooter. Let us not forget that HE is the one who messed up his trades. I gotta figure OB for him nets just as much if not more than it does for us.

Totally agree on ix-nay for the eplaceable parts-rey.

[regoarrarr]

Also, we did get a Great Merchant at the end of last turn, which we're saving for a golden age, with our next guy, who we hope to be a scientist. Currently that's 17t, though I think I support running a bit of starvation in Church Lady to get it out in 13t (fire the 2 miners and hiring 2 more scientists).

Though I guess it depends on when we think we'll be ready to get Communism and revolt.

We also need to figure out what order (if any) we want to do the trades for Chemistry next turn. IMPORTANT! We don't want to end turn this turn so that we can be first to play next turn when we have Chemistry to play around with.

I don't see any tech increases this turn.

Spread Christianity to 2 of the cities on Inferno Island - Ed Grimley can make the missionary for the last city after its done on Research.

[pindicator]

So civic changes we're looking at making with our next golden age:

State Property
Environmentalism

Do we wait on the golden age to include Representation as well? If not and we are happy staying in HR then we can probably kick off the golden age toward the end of teching Lib & Sci Meth - and in that case we probably want to get that next great person ASAP. But if we want to keep Rep

Dang, I need to estimate what our tech rate is gonna be. Brb...

[pindicator]

Right now we're making 1023bpt without the research builds (at 100%).

I'm estimating 1400bpt in a golden age at 100%, which figuring about 250bpt more at current levels and then growth + future infrastructure on top of it.

Communism is 9016b, so if we were to only go for Environmentalism & Communism on the civic swap that would mean we would want to trigger the golden age so we can do the civic swap on the final turn, and complete Communism on the 7th turn of the GA.

It looks like this put us at triggering the GA with probably 1 or 2 turns to go in Sci Meth to get Communism in on time. And that's going to be well before the next Great Person can come in, even with starvation.

Besides, we probably will want to use the golden age to build said Kremlin - right? So in that case it makes a little bit of sense to trigger the GA right after teching Communism (or a little earlier if we think we need to use it to secure the spy). In that case we probably can tech Constitution during the GA and then swap into Rep at the end of the GA.

So, TL;DR - starving for a faster scientist is fine by me

[regoarrarr]

Phew good thing I logged in, because SOMEBODY was messing with our slider and left us on 60%.

[regoarrarr]

So mechanics question.

I know in SP that if you trade for a tech, you're not able to trade it that turn. But I seem to recall in previous PB games (PB1) that I was able to re-trade things right on the same turn.

But I know that I saw earlier on, after Krill and Nakor swapped Astro and RP, that those techs that they had traded for (RP for Krill and Astro for Nakor) showed up in the "can't trade" for a turn.

Anyone know the actual rules on this?

[regoarrarr]

Scooter countered with OB and his World Map for OB + Gems, which I also declined. Maybe we can include Gems in the Chemistry trade next turn

[pindicator]

whoops, late night & civ is probably a bad mix

[regoarrarr]

Okay not sure if you're around but Commodore (last to play besides us) just logged in.

Any reason not to just offer the following trades, all right at turn flip

* Nakor - Chemistry for RP
* Krill - Chemistry for 1143 (or some number) gold
* Scooter - Chemistry + Gems for Nat + Econ

?

[regoarrarr]

Okay turn rolled and I offered all 3 of those trades. Our tech on Drama at 30% (least to still get it in 1t). I could probably be talked into raising our slider to max on Drama if we want.

I see no other techs discovered this turn