WW39. Escape from the Congo.

[novice]

Which brings up the question, what do you think about Adrien?

[zakalwe]

In fact, I'll put my vote down for AdrienIer once more. His play still doesn't make much sense as a townie. But if he's scum there are many scenarios in which his passive play at the end makes sense. His too-late-on-the-face-of-it move to Bob would probably be intended to frame Bob as the next lynch.

Could you name some scenarios?

The passive play makes sense if he is scum and has given up, not wanting to leave any more clues. And some of us were pointing to him and Bob as potential scumbuddies. He wouldn't want to ruin that impression if he could not find a way out. So you or Gazglum could be his buddy, trying to create an opening. Or his buddy could be sitting on him, but I think that's less likely.

In fact, I'll put my vote down for AdrienIer once more. His play still doesn't make much sense as a townie. But if he's scum there are many scenarios in which his passive play at the end makes sense. His too-late-on-the-face-of-it move to Bob would probably be intended to frame Bob as the next lynch.

Could you tell me how, if I was scum and had died yesterday, such a move on Bob would frame him ?

What I mean is it would look deliberately half-hearted. If you had instead "seen the light" when I pushed you on Bob a little earlier, you could have ended up putting Bob in a much better light and still dying.

I think you keep making some persuasive points against Rowain, Gazglum, but he also keeps defending quite well. It could just be town on town action. That's a very roundabout way to arrive at a Mattimeo vote, though.

If you didn't like your company on Adrien, and if you think that Rowain is not acting as towny as usual, why do you now say that you think me fighting him is town-on-town?

Who, specifically, made you uneasy about sticking on Adrien yesterday?

Yesterday I was uneasy about both Lewwyn, Rowain, and Shadeun. Today I'm thinking Rowain could well be town, and maybe you too.

I see your other post, too, but I have to run and don't have time to address it properly. My first impression is that you're asking me the same question in 5 different ways.

[Gazglum]

If Adrien is scum I would give Shadeun a pass and look at novice, Matt, Gazglum and zak

If Adrien is town I rather think Shadeun, Matt, Gazglum

I do think we would have been better served by killing Adrien yesterday (no matter what his role is).

Well, you've come up with basically the same list as I did. Trying to deflect your chief accuser, or great town minds thinking alike?

So who are you going to vote for? And why?

[AdrienIer]

If Adrien is town I rather think Shadeun, Matt, Gazglum

Your Kill The Aussies platform is interesting

[Gazglum]

Yesterday I was uneasy about both Lewwyn, Rowain, and Shadeun. Today I'm thinking Rowain could well be town, and maybe you too.

What posts from Rowain today shifted your thoughts? How are you feeling about Shadeun now?

[Rowain]

Which brings up the question, what do you think about Adrien?

So who are you going to vote for? And why?

I do fear our lists are wrong. I still don't like that zak now says he didn't trust me when in fact he followed me on AdrienIer when the standing was:
2 votes: zakalwe ( Bobchillingworth, AdrienIer )
2 votes: Rowain ( Lewwyn, Gazglum )
2 vote Bob: ( Mattimeo, novice )
1 votes: Gazglum ( zakalwe )
1 votes: AdrienIer ( Rowain )

and I don't like him saying he needed to wait for AdrienIer to switch because he didn't want to risk anything. So he made the vc a 2:2:2:2 instead of a 3:2:2:1 but was then too afraid to push Bob when it counted? I mean at that time zak switching (before Adrien) would make it 3:3 between Adrien and Bob and ensure a lynch of one of those 2.

So I'm currently inclined to vote zak but I also fear a mattimeo + Shadeun combination. Especially Shadeun is a hot candidate IMO.

[Gazglum]

Yesssssssssss....turn on each other my wolfy friends.

(I'm a bit hyped on coffee now. Hysteria may be a fairer line of attack).

[AdrienIer]

I also fear a mattimeo + Shadeun combination.

This. Very much.

[novice]

Time to put down a vote. I don't feel like I've found a world view where everything makes sense yet. Mattimeo fits as scum in all cases though except possibly paired with Adrien due to Adrien's initial Mattimeo vote.

I'm a bit worried that we have a scum pair that has managed to interact in a way that makes them both look towny.

My second preference atm. is Rowain, I guess. But I really don't know.

[Mattimeo]

Mattimeo is the common potential scum link, which makes sense because he's only really offered one post and he didn't stick his neck out at all with it. The deadline should be a good time for Mattimeo, but he didn't check in at all. Which he may have had good reasons for, but it was convenient for him to steer clear.

Not really a good reason, but my sleep pattern so far this week has been like, 3-11 rather than anything remotely sane. That has caused some issues with several things, the 8am deadline being the least of them.
I also wouldn't exactly call it a "good" time as a default, either. It's either an hour after work starts (the lack of any such this week likely contributing to the abysmal sleep schedule) or the first thing to focus on when I do get up, competing with other morning activities. It's likely the 'least bad' of times that set EU/NA up for a nice evening deadline, which was exactly the reason I gave for agreeing to it, but it's by no means 'good'.

Mattimeo, would you have still voted for Bob if you had been on at deadline?

Probably. Was either him or Adrien, and I'm generally averse to switching late unless I need to save myself of there's a compelling reason that someone needs to live/die.

Felt shit most of the day, not up for a massive post now. Sleep. More cogitative in the morning.