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Some quick thoughts after the moves came in
England told me he was literally in the middle of changing his orders to Fin S Swe when the turn rolled, which cost him a center
Germany:
Quote:Couldn't figure out how I lost both Holland and Belgium. Then I
realised... I sent in the wrong orders. I meant to do Bel-NTH, Hol S
Bel-NTH. ![frown frown](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Austria pre-moves
Quote:Well things are going smoothly. Objective right now is to kill Russia. I may be able to get 2 centers this year, depending on some luck, but I'm not going to be able to afford leaving two centers open... I have Rumania now, but Russia can take it back in time for the Fall if he uses Ukraine, Galicia, and Black Sea. Doing this though risks some things... So my goal here is to guarantee +1 and get +2 with some luck, so that's the goal here.
(note: this was written right before Fall1906 processed, and as I was about to hit send the turn processed. I basically got what I wanted - I had to guess if Russia would go into Const or Bulgaria, and I guessed wrong, but I still get a +1 for Rumania. Also, I snuck Turkey into Sev which was fun.)
then Austria addendum
Quote:Make that +2. But again, can only build 1.
And retreats
Quote:Germany: Fleet Holland -> Helgoland Bight.
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Quote:Austria: Ankara, Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Smyrna,
Trieste, Venice, Vienna.
England: Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway,
St Petersburg.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Naples, Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain,
Tunis.
Germany: Berlin, Kiel, Munich.
Russia: Constantinople, Moscow, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey: Sevastopol.
Austria: 10 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 2 units.
England: 7 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Germany: 3 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 4 Supply centers, 6 Units: Removes 2 units.
Turkey: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
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Austria should probably have tried to take Galicia this turn, the second build would have been very useful. Both England and France appear to have realized that they can't afford to fight each other.
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Quote:Adjustment results for Winter of 1906. (rbnopress01.026)
Austria: Builds an army in Trieste.
England: Builds a fleet in London.
France: Builds an army in Marseilles.
Russia: Removes the fleet in the Baltic Sea.
Russia: Removes the fleet in Sweden.
Austria: 1 unusable build waived.
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Thoughts from England
Quote:My planned orders for S07:
F Eng S Mao - Bre
F StP H
F Den - Kie
F Nth - Hel
F Lon - Nth
A Hol S Den - Kie
F Fin – Swe
In hindsight, I’m glad I ordered what I did last turn, even though I was literally seconds from switching from Swe-Den and Fin-Swe to Fin S Swe. With Russia out of the north, I’m glad Den is now filled, and Swe being Russian gives me some option value: I may want to let Russia continue to wreak havoce with Con and Bla.
So, my moves:
Eng S Mao – Bre is to screw with France a little. He MIGHT do a Mao/Par bounce in the spring, and I’d rather not have an F Bre build be an option for him. Eng can’t do much else (Bel doesn’t need any support, after all). It’s a purely “I’m covering my ass” move, not anything that makes his life difficult.
Germany: Bur – Mun and Den – Kie are likely as hell…I don’t see how he can hold off everything. Nth – Hel and Den – Kie cut any possible attack on Hol, so I only have to worry about either France moving against me AND Germany helping out, or Mun S Kie (so Kie isn’t dislodged) and Kie S Hel – Den. If THAT happens, well, F Den retreats to Bal, I have Nth, Hel, Swe and Bal, and can safely take Den back while aligning my fleets to obliterate Kie and Ber in 1908. Bur – Ruh or Bur – Mun would end up pressing on Germany anyway with that (Bel S Bur – Ruh and Par – Bur is probably the line I would take as France right now).
In the north: Fin – Swe means that the fleet can support Denmark if needed, and I can easily choose whether or not to vacate it in the fall. StP holding just makes me feel a little safer in the medium term; StP – Nwy doesn’t do me a bit of good. I don't need to hold Nth, or Swe, and leaving StP vacant merely invites trouble. I'd love to not have to keep a fleet in the north giving the order Lvn S F StP all day long... (although, F Lvn is the way to do that, because then Lvn S Pru type moves are available, as without Lvn becoming an enemy unit, StP can't be bounced).
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Re-thoughts from England
Quote:Orders have changed slightly.
A Hol – Kie
F Den S F Nth – Hel and F Nth – Hel
F Lon – Nth
F Fin – Swe
F StP (NC) S Sev – Nwy (Because I can)
F Eng H
Eng S Mao – Bre will be my FALL order for Eng, not the spring one. France is too enamored of the self-bounce for me not to mess with it ONCE. Doing it in the spring is foolish; Bre – Mao and Pic – Bre will be forced fall moves for him, and that’s not really what I want right now. Nor do I want to press the issue in the fall with Eng – Mao, as that’s too aggressive a move at the moment. I need to process what Germany’s doing a little more.
Ber – Mun: I think this is forced. He’s got to block Bur – Mun, or else he’s definitely screwed if he's wrong there. So Hel and Kie have to decide where to go. Hel S Kie is foolish; Nth – Hel and Hol – Kie or Den – Kie with support ends that. Therefore, we’re going to see Hel – Den, Kie – Den, Hel – Hol, or Kie – Hol.
Hel – Den: Den S Hol – Kie bounces, Hol S Den – Kie cracks Kie (forcing a retreat to Ruh, most likely, unless Ber – Mun succeeds, for Ruh/Ber/Den as Germany’s most likely arrangement…which is fine, I do Nth S Swe – Den, Hel S Kie, Hol – Ruh (Den is guaranteed dislodged, so Hol – Ruh and Den being dislodged guarantees 1 support being cut, while Hel Kie means that the other two units can’t crunch Kie, and Hol – Ruh is safer against Bel – Hol). Nth S Den – Hel also bounces. Den S Nth – Hel sees Den dislodged…which is FINE. I get Nth/Hel/Swe/Bal, I’m in good shape to retake Den and have my fleets in perfect alignment for further progress.
Hel – Hol: Den S Hol – Kie trades Kie for Hol, and I can really end this one quickly with that, I think. Hol becomes stranded (Eng – Bel + something with my other troops should be able to pick up Hol while holding Kie). Hol S Den – Kie bounces. Den S Nth – Hel is fine…IF Hol – Ruh is a valid retreat. France may take the sure thing of Bel S Bur – Ruh, Par – Bur, and threaten lots of different things. Nth S Den – Hel is OK: Swe – Kie becomes forced, and then I go for Hol IF Ruh is OK (Eng – Bel + Ruh – Hol would succeed for sure).
Kie – Hol: Nth – Hel forces a bounce, Den S Nth – Hel crunches Hel. Den S Hol – Kie bounces.
Kie – Den: Nth – Hel forces a bounce, Hol S Den – Kie would crunch Kie assuming Hel S.
Defensive Hel – Hol + Kie – Den: The four-unit rotation (Hol – Kie, Den – Hel, Hel – Hol + Kie – Den) is fine, as I can re-take Den on the cheap, and Hol is also likely, although Kie would be in danger if I got Hol. Den S Nth – Hel looks like it bounces everything. I’d need either French pressure (which Bur – Ruh provides, but Bur – Mun does not).
So, Den S Nth – Hel or Nth S Den – Hel. Since I want to do Lon – Nth, Den S Nth Hel.
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Quote:Movement results for Spring of 1907. (rbnopress01.027)
Austria: Army Smyrna -> Constantinople.
Austria: Army Vienna -> Galicia.
Austria: Fleet Bulgaria (south coast) SUPPORT Army Smyrna -> Constantinople. (*dislodged*)
Austria: Army Venice -> Apulia.
Austria: Army Ankara SUPPORT Army Smyrna -> Constantinople.
Austria: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Vienna -> Galicia.
Austria: Army Rumania SUPPORT Army Vienna -> Galicia.
Austria: Fleet Ionian Sea -> Aegean Sea.
Austria: Army Trieste -> Venice. (*bounce*)
England: Army Holland -> Kiel. (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Finland -> Sweden.
England: Fleet English Channel HOLD.
England: Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) SUPPORT Turkish Army Sevastopol -> Norway. (*void*)
England: Fleet Denmark SUPPORT Fleet North Sea -> Helgoland Bight.
England: Fleet North Sea -> Helgoland Bight.
England: Fleet London -> North Sea.
France: Army Picardy -> Burgundy. (*bounce*)
France: Army Rome -> Venice. (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean HOLD.
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea -> Tuscany.
France: Army Belgium -> Ruhr.
France: Army Burgundy -> Munich. (*bounce*)
France: Army Paris -> Picardy. (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean -> Tunis.
France: Army Marseilles -> Piedmont.
Germany: Army Kiel SUPPORT Fleet Helgoland Bight -> Denmark. (*cut*)
Germany: Fleet Helgoland Bight -> Denmark. (*bounce, dislodged*)
Germany: Army Berlin -> Munich. (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Galicia -> Rumania. (*bounce, dislodged*)
Russia: Fleet Constantinople -> Bulgaria (east coast).
Russia: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Fleet Constantinople -> Bulgaria (east coast).
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Army Galicia -> Rumania. (*cut*)
Turkey: Army Sevastopol -> Ukraine. (*bounce*)
The following units were dislodged:
The Austrian Fleet in Bulgaria (south coast) can retreat to Greece.
The German Fleet in the Helgoland Bight with no valid retreats was destroyed.
The Russian Army in Galicia can retreat to Warsaw or Bohemia or Silesia.
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Thoughts from England
Quote:F07:
Well, that went well. I assume that France isn’t going to order Ruh – Hol or Ruh S Kie, so Hol S Den – Kie, Hel S Den – Kie, Den – Kie. I think I’d rather have Hel be occupied to cover Hol next year than Den. Also, Den then becomes a usable convoy spot for an army next year; I’m going to need to start getting armies so I can move off of coasts.
Eng S Nth – Bel. Germany’s dead at this point (if I were Germany, Ber S Kie – Mun would be my orders, b/c Kie is SO DEAD that trying to save it is a fool’s errand. So I’m going to have to move against France soon enough. Pic – Bel + Mao – Eng + Par – Bre would be sufficient, and allow for Ruh S Bur – Mun (although Germany CAN get a guaranteed bounce there).
Also, Russia’s got a good shot of holding at 3 SC on the mainland, so I need to keep Sweden Russian for now. Swe – Bal (which also makes grabbing Ber a lot easier next year). And StP can just sit there again.
(I don't care where Russia retreats to, and Bul - Gre is very obvious).
StP H
Swe - Bal
Den - Kie
Hel S Den - Kie
Hol S Den - Kie
Eng S Nth - Bel
Nth - Bel
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Quote:Austria: Fleet Bulgaria (south coast) -> Greece.
Russia: Army Galicia -> Warsaw.
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Thoughts from England
Quote:I made two changes:
1) I use Eng - Bel instead of Nth - Bel
2) I use Hel - Kie instead of Den - Kie (I think you can figure out how the support orders would be changed)
Why? Well, if I get Bel, then I get two builds: F Lvp and A Lon (unless France does Mao - Eng, in which case I do F Lon and F Lvp, with F Bel pulling out that turn b/c there's no way I hold Bel with everything surrounding it. This frees up F Nth to convoy A Lon onto the mainland, and Den - Swe or Den - Bal may make a lot of sense. I need to get a 2nd unit to cover StP, so Den - Bal followed by Bal - Bot works well for that, and I go grab Swe in 1909. Russia is probably going to be really confused about why I'm leaving Sweden alone, but a Slow Austria Is A Friendly Austria.
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